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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Dravinian
12.30.2011 , 06:22 PM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by ZombieMeerkat View Post
You think they started the game at level 50? Nope. Most of them paid those dues, just like the rest of it.

You want that advantage? Earn it. Don't ask for it be spoonfed to you.
Oh the "I earnt it card"

So, easy fix, double the subscription for level 50s going into Warzones.

Then you can really claim to have earnt it.

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Lillien
12.30.2011 , 06:24 PM | #262
Quote: Originally Posted by Caeliux View Post
What a original thread, I have not seen a thread like this before.

Oh wait this might be the millionth one, never mind OP continue crying about how low levels get beat up since they won't shut up about it..
Because its an obvious problem...

Some people are just morons.

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Ruwe
12.30.2011 , 06:37 PM | #263
Quote: Originally Posted by Caeliux View Post
What a original thread, I have not seen a thread like this before.

Oh wait this might be the millionth one, never mind OP continue crying about how low levels get beat up since they won't shut up about it..

Up until today I was doing great in PVP, today I EVERY SINGLE TIME I QUEUE'D I went in against an almost full group of level 50's. I am level 38. It was taking our entire team to kill two of them, and they would usually mop about half of us out, then the rest of their team would show up to finish it off.

I don't mind a challenge, I don't mind losing. But when you obviously have no chance at all, what is the point of playing? This is what the OP is referring too here, he's not crying that he got beat up by a guuurrlll. He's complaining that level 50's have an unfair advantage over the lower level players in PVP, which, let's be honest here, is absolutely true with the way the gear is built. Get off your high horse, stop insulting people. Not everyone rushed to level 50 as fast as they possibly could. Some of us are enjoying the content.

If they would implement a bracket system it would solve alot of problems, the hardcore people would have their ranking system, the non-hardcore people can continue to dabble happily. I really enjoyed pvp up until today, I still enjoy it, but if this isn't corrected, soon the only people you'll see in the warzones will be new people who don't know better yet, and lvl 50's.
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Lillien
12.30.2011 , 06:47 PM | #264
The fact is, the level 50s are too powerful and it completely unbalances the game. All you can do is hope that there are other 50s on your side to balance it.

Simple truth.

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Lokregar
12.30.2011 , 06:49 PM | #265
Having a pvp'ed a bit on my level 30ish toon. I have the following observations and the consequential suggestion

1. Level 50s are not the problem, level 50 gear is the problem (high expertise level 50s hardly get hit by me and hit me really hard.)

Suggestion:
Levelling via PvP should give you access (via commendations maybe?) to expertise gear that you can use to hold your own against pvp players. The expertise should be little but also be similarly bolstered so that the match is fair in warzones but doesn't really help in world pvp.

2. Level 50s have access to talents and abilities that lower levels do not.

Suggestion:
Leave as is, bolster is enough to compensate for some missing talents and abilities.

I like to do missions with a break to pvp. As a result of this pvp I collect commendations which I use to buy gear or boxes, but the gear this provides does not have expertise which is a pvp only stat.

Most of us low level toons understand that a level 50 toon will have an advantage over us even while bolstered. What we are finding frustrating is that as more people who are level 50 start destroying us in the battleground, the battleground ceases to be fun for lower levels. i.e. The advantage they have is strong enough to cause many lower levels to stop queuing until they are 50.

As a result you will end up with a forced level 50 bracket where nobody less than 50 will queue for pvp as they have no fun pvping.

TLDR:
Make commendations reward expertise for low levels or the 11-50 pvp bracket will become 50s only.

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Caeliux
12.30.2011 , 06:51 PM | #266
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruwe View Post
Up until today I was doing great in PVP, today I EVERY SINGLE TIME I QUEUE'D I went in against an almost full group of level 50's. I am level 38. It was taking our entire team to kill two of them, and they would usually mop about half of us out, then the rest of their team would show up to finish it off.

I don't mind a challenge, I don't mind losing. But when you obviously have no chance at all, what is the point of playing? This is what the OP is referring too here, he's not crying that he got beat up by a guuurrlll. He's complaining that level 50's have an unfair advantage over the lower level players in PVP, which, let's be honest here, is absolutely true with the way the gear is built. Get off your high horse, stop insulting people. Not everyone rushed to level 50 as fast as they possibly could. Some of us are enjoying the content.

If they would implement a bracket system it would solve alot of problems, the hardcore people would have their ranking system, the non-hardcore people can continue to dabble happily. I really enjoyed pvp up until today, I still enjoy it, but if this isn't corrected, soon the only people you'll see in the warzones will be new people who don't know better yet, and lvl 50's.
You posted a big wall of I got beat up, and I hate it..

Go level up.

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druvokus
12.30.2011 , 06:54 PM | #267
No there not ...so they have a few more abilities ....big deal.

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ZombieMeerkat
12.30.2011 , 06:56 PM | #268
Quote: Originally Posted by Lokregar View Post
Having a pvp'ed a bit on my level 30ish toon. I have the following observations and the consequential suggestion

1. Level 50s are not the problem, level 50 gear is the problem (high expertise level 50s hardly get hit by me and hit me really hard.)

Suggestion:
Levelling via PvP should give you access (via commendations maybe?) to expertise gear that you can use to hold your own against pvp players. The expertise should be little but also be similarly bolstered so that the match is fair in warzones but doesn't really help in world pvp.

2. Level 50s have access to talents and abilities that lower levels do not.

Suggestion:
Leave as is, bolster is enough to compensate for some missing talents and abilities.

I like to do missions with a break to pvp. As a result of this pvp I collect commendations which I use to buy gear or boxes, but the gear this provides does not have expertise which is a pvp only stat.

Most of us low level toons understand that a level 50 toon will have an advantage over us even while bolstered. What we are finding frustrating is that as more people who are level 50 start destroying us in the battleground, the battleground ceases to be fun for lower levels. i.e. The advantage they have is strong enough to cause many lower levels to stop queuing until they are 50.

As a result you will end up with a forced level 50 bracket where nobody less than 50 will queue for pvp as they have no fun pvping.

TLDR:
Make commendations reward expertise for low levels or the 11-50 pvp bracket will become 50s only.
Your post reminded me....

....what happens to these crybabies outside the WZ when they're NOT bolstered?

Anyway, that's actually a great idea. Might need to tweak the scaling of expertise, but giving that low level gear expertise might actually help with survival a bit.

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Toothsome
12.30.2011 , 06:58 PM | #269
lazy *** low lvls are killing pvp, lvling isnt hard in this game and you can make a lvl every 2hours at low lvl, these people are just lazy and ruin the lvl 50s experience. because we gotta carry them nubs, and they have the nerve 2 call themselves pvpers, and refuse to pve abit to get atleast in the 30s.

wasting everyones time, being crap, like really what goes through your head, im gonna get to lvl 10 and then slowly pvp to lvl 50, and miss craploads of weekly and daily boxes, so when i get there, i have no good gear, and everyone outgears me by miles.

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Caeliux
12.30.2011 , 06:59 PM | #270
Quote: Originally Posted by Toothsome View Post
lazy *** low lvls are killing pvp, lvling isnt hard in this game and you can make a lvl every 2hours at low lvl, these people are just lazy and ruin the lvl 50s experience. because we gotta carry them nubs, and they have the nerve 2 call themselves pvpers, and refuse to pvp abit to get atleast in the 30s.

wasting everyones time, being crap.
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