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Was Vitiate a fraud then? Confused about a line from the FP (spoilers obviously)

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Was Vitiate a fraud then? Confused about a line from the FP (spoilers obviously)
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Ravyynn
05.03.2018 , 11:39 PM | #1
So Zildrog (the machine, whatever exactly it is) said it hasn't had this much hunger since it devoured Nathema. As we've been told this whole time, Vitiate devoured Nathema with a dark side ritual himself and sacrificed 9,000 Sith Lords or whatever the number was to make himself immortal. Is this saying that that was all grandstanding and he really used this Zildrog superweapon to devour Nathema? It doesn't seem to make sense as Vitiate shouldn't have even known about Zildrog/Zakuul etc. at the point when he did that ritual on Nathema. Was it just conflicting/bad writing?

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JLazarillo
05.03.2018 , 11:46 PM | #2
It's no conflict. Vitiate used Zildrog to destroy Nathema, then fed on the death. Nathema "devoured" the living, Vitiate "devoured" the dead, and the death was simply the catalyst. Just like how he was going to "devour" Belsavis during the Knight story, for example, but the trigger for that was a bomb.

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Dracofish
05.04.2018 , 12:14 AM | #3
But then how do we explain Ziost?
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Paulsutherland
05.04.2018 , 12:26 AM | #4
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But then how do we explain Ziost?
Maybe there was a second console?

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FlameYOL
05.04.2018 , 01:25 AM | #5
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But then how do we explain Ziost?
Now this is just conjecture based on my own interpretations, but based on the JK story the ritual to consume the life in the galaxy required 2 things. A certain amount of deaths over a certain time and a huge amount of death in a short time, probably creating a disturbance in the force which Vitiate can use to feed or something.

On Ziost his spirit controls beings and then uses to kill other beings then posses more, it's a cycle until I think it reaches a point where he's able to consume the planet.
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FlameYOL
05.04.2018 , 01:26 AM | #6
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It's no conflict. Vitiate used Zildrog to destroy Nathema, then fed on the death. Nathema "devoured" the living, Vitiate "devoured" the dead, and the death was simply the catalyst. Just like how he was going to "devour" Belsavis during the Knight story, for example, but the trigger for that was a bomb.
You know, this might actually be a good explanation for it. Hopefully someone will clear it up because from the Revan novel and every other source it always seemed to involve a force related ritual, no Zildrog at all, but I suppose it's possible that information could be retconned as Nyriss could've been wrong or not fully aware of what had happened.
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Myrmicus
05.04.2018 , 03:35 AM | #7
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You know, this might actually be a good explanation for it. Hopefully someone will clear it up because from the Revan novel and every other source it always seemed to involve a force related ritual, no Zildrog at all, but I suppose it's possible that information could be retconned as Nyriss could've been wrong or not fully aware of what had happened.
Force ritual and the use of Zildrog aren't necessarily excluding one another. Even if Vitiate used a particular mean to end people's lives, I think he would still need to perform a ritual in order to catch the spirits of the deads. In the end, no matter said murdering means, that's not what will be remembered. People who are Force Sensitive can feel the death of a whole world through the Force... if someone siphon the energy of the population of an entire planet, someone is bound to feel it. The latter is much more troubling than the former, since there are a lot of way to effectively kill entire populations in the matter of seconds, while there isn't that much appearence of one being eating said population.

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FlameYOL
05.04.2018 , 12:50 PM | #8
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Force ritual and the use of Zildrog aren't necessarily excluding one another. Even if Vitiate used a particular mean to end people's lives, I think he would still need to perform a ritual in order to catch the spirits of the deads. In the end, no matter said murdering means, that's not what will be remembered. People who are Force Sensitive can feel the death of a whole world through the Force... if someone siphon the energy of the population of an entire planet, someone is bound to feel it. The latter is much more troubling than the former, since there are a lot of way to effectively kill entire populations in the matter of seconds, while there isn't that much appearence of one being eating said population.
I suppose, from what we know he dominated the minds of the Sith Lords, at least I used to think it was more of a Ziost than a Zildrog scenarion.
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05.04.2018 , 01:54 PM | #9 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
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05.04.2018 , 02:58 PM | #10
Thanks, Charles.
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