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Maybe it's time to move to a full F2P model

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Maybe it's time to move to a full F2P model

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translucentwolf
04.04.2018 , 01:01 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by PorsaLindahl View Post
I've given my constructive feedback, made suggestions, etc. But when I see something stupid, I'm going to say it's stupid. I don't mince words. If you knew anything at all about me, you'd know that one fact for sure.
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SaerethDL
04.04.2018 , 01:02 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
Subs already get "perks" that f2p players don't get.

monthly coins
'sprint' at lvl 1
early speeder access
3rd crafting slot
extra quickbars
etc.

So, once again, your argument is invalid.

As this is a free country, continue to post your " I want something for nothing " threads. The multiple ways you try to spin it are kinda interesting, if ultimately useless.
Again you don't understand and I'm not going to keep explaining so this will be my last reply to you.. you are acting somewhat like a troll trying to agitate people.
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translucentwolf
04.04.2018 , 01:02 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by SaerethDL View Post
Now we are talking, they need cxp for endgame so you cant take that away, but you could give subscribers a big cxp bonus. In return b2p people would get to do all the content you get to do, to be extra warm bodies when waiting in queue.
Nah. I'm a sub. I already get an infinite bonus on CXP vs. a non-sub.

Next suggestion please
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SaerethDL
04.04.2018 , 01:03 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You clearly know nothing about the norm in the industry in the context of IP license contracts and agreements.
Again do you? You said it yourself they are under a strict NDA. So unless you work for bioware/EA and you're a higher up, what do you really know yourself?
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JennyFlynn
04.04.2018 , 01:04 PM | #65
This thread seems to be based on some mock altruism.

"I'm quitting the game because <reasons> and no longer wish to pay! But you should make it fully F2P, for "others", but really so I can continue to check back in and play without paying a dime because while I no longer wish to pay, I don't fully want to quit either and I hate the lack of perks as F2P."

But maybe you're sincere, I don't know you well enough. Just getting a vibe that while you're waving the quit-flag, you don't actually want to walk away because the game still matters to you. I get that, I'm walking that line myself and it sucks but things are what they are. Also seems a lot of your reactions come from a place of disappointment and frustration, still trying to fight for improvement with one foot out the door already.

We can debate for hours what the best course of action would be for Bioware, perhaps one or two of us are actually experienced enough to know what would and would not work but in the end, it doesn't matter. Bioware and EA will follow the money and for as long as their current model works, they're going to milk it. When it stops working, you may get your full F2P while the prices on the CM soar because they won't stop trying to grasp for every single penny. It's out of our hands in any case.
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translucentwolf
04.04.2018 , 01:06 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by SaerethDL View Post
Again you don't understand and I'm not going to keep explaining so this will be my last reply to you.. you are acting somewhat like a troll trying to agitate people.
I understand you *perfectly*.

You want what you have now. No restrictions, as a sub.

You don't want to pay anymore.

You offer up a pretty empty suggestion:

Give me what I have now, after I stop paying. And give people who still pay a little something on top of the same stuff I get.

You spin it as 'more perks for subs' but it boils down to the same thing:

Current features, 0 cost.

It's not trolling to tell a guy asking for free meal that maybe he should, you know, pay for his lunch.

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translucentwolf
04.04.2018 , 01:07 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by JennyFlynn View Post
This thread seems to be based on some mock altruism.
IKR, Pretty transparent, isn't it?
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Loadsamonie
04.04.2018 , 01:07 PM | #68
I disagree. I say drop the F2P model altogether and either go back to a Sub-only model, OR go the Guild Wars 2 route where the player needs to make a one-time purchase (minus expansions), and then they get full access to the game and all features. Extras would come from the CM.

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Cowoline
04.04.2018 , 01:07 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by SaerethDL View Post
Now we are talking, they need cxp for endgame so you cant take that away, but you could give subscribers a big cxp bonus. In return b2p people would get to do all the content you get to do, to be extra warm bodies when waiting in queue.
Well, they could get CXP from the "dull content" like dailies and heroics - I bet some people might decided to subscribe for that reason alone Now we are at it, I never understood why they removed the passes. I thought that worked well.

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Scorecard
04.04.2018 , 01:08 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by PorsaLindahl View Post
They could learn a lot from NCSoft and Arenanet. I'll leave it at that. It's too bad NCSoft didn't buy BW instead of EA getting their destructive meathooks into them.
I'm not sure if this line is a joke or not? EA could learn something from NCSoft? HAHAHA! NCSoft is just as bad as EA, but I'm going to continue to let you think otherwise.
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