Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

Ah, now I understand what you meant. A translation from Ukrainian to English and then to Russian, its such a испорченный телефон . Arcann, hero by accident, not by intent!

IIRC, PC agreed to help Kalyo with her next stunt (no civilian casualties) in exchange for Overwatch data – and that was a very sweet deal. Second part of her plan was a very unpleasant surprise (or pleasant if DS) and none of my PC let her do it. What was missing is the choice between welcoming her with open arms into Alliance, offering her to join with a very clear warning to keep in line or saying that she have failed her interview. As for treasury chapter... Well, Alliance needed funding, there was that ship full of stolen wealth from Republic and Empire. Then PC could play Robin Hood (I must confess my Sith left the funds in Alliance for a rainy day). Ahhh, the power of headcannon ^^.

You tell me. Even my SI (who is power hungry by cannon even if LS) was screaming, swearing and kicking all the way. Seriously, I would prefer to find some Zakuul high ranking respected Valkoryon advisor who objected then Arcann started doing nasty staff, was exiled into swamps, spent 5 years in soul searching and is an ideal candidate to sit on that chair without going crazy with power. Help the Galaxy rebuild or keep Zakuul away from Republic and Empire! Or Senya. Hey, both my Outlanders were Force Sensitive, why could they not push her into chair? Even if she may not be the best candidate she do know how all this stuff works, right?

But nooooo, we have the “I am the most powerful force and what now” situation. Which lead to a “no you are really not, your Fleet is useless because... reasons”.

Arcann was the Emperor. And it looks like Valkorion spent centuries cultivating the “Emperor is always in the right” mentality on Zakuul. Same deal with a Sith Empire really - why obey a caste of crazy DS sociopaths? Honor? Propaganda? Fear? By the way, some Codex entries do mention that everyone who objected or was asking uncomfortable questions were killed, exiled or disappeared.

Yeh... Same droid who PC have no other choice but to invite to Alliance . Because, obviously, she wants to help, your goals are the same and she will not betray you as soon as she gets what she wants. I am waiting for her to pop up in GEMINY and take over Eternal Fleet.

Why not indeed . I was like: "Lay back, sorry, sit and think of Allaince. Thank you, BW -_-".

What constantly confuses me is the way the story is told. Will the consequences be serious or Star Warsy? How seriously should I take it? Does my PC have any control over it? Will my PC be forced to act like an idiot again?

And yes, may the people who dislike Arcann and think that he is a one dimensional monster forgive me, but I do think that he had little chance not to be what he was. More choice then Vaylin, but still, very little.

More precisely, the translation is from Russian to English, and again into Russian.

Arcann is not a hero at all. But he had his own "vision of the galaxy," he had some plans for the development of the Empire, and not a crazy psychosis, like in Vaylin. He is not a maniac, and does not do evil for the sake of evil. He is more defends himself from PC actions than he attacks. The story is dominated by the PC, he is aggressive, he always attacks.
I think if the PC did not constantly attack Zakuul, Arcann would simply be lazily sitting on the throne and dreamed of ever killing his dad.

Depends on roleplay the character. For my Wrath to descend to the level of a thief and a terrorist - humiliation. As for a respected Jedi Master. It is very strongly felt that these chapters were written for other classes, just as the chapter with the cave and forest in Odessen was written for forceusers. I could not accept them, because my character was just breaking down there.

It turns out, the whole plot (the creation of the Alliance, the war with the royal family of Zakuul) spun around the Eternal Throne? Although after Ziost our goal was solely the destruction of Vitiate? A strange shift in emphasis.
This throne could be given to Senya, but there was not even such an option.

Emperors are also mortal. "And you Brute?" always works. On the other hand, we saw no advisers, no ministers, no courtiers of Arcann. Maybe they do not exist at all?

In the end, the droid outwitted all.
Sometimes it seems to me that the story of KOTFE is one huge facepalm.

I cba to read through or search this thread. Is Arcann available as a same-sex romance companion?

yes

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Ah, I can imagine how much of the offence that Chapter would be for a Sith Warrior. They killed for less. And to think that it was not the first or the last insult they had to tolerate . Had your PC arranged Kalyo death at least?

Yep. I have played many BW games and noticed a pattern: they are very good at world building (Thedas, Mass Effect, Jade Empire), they create interesting characters and they are capable of starting a good story. But oh so often they loose momentum somewhere in the middle and the endings are rarely satisfying. It's like they loose focus. Or switch writers. Or never have a clear skeleton of a story. Or decide it would be cool to change a direction of the plot thread on a whim. Or ignore the build up that took half of the game to set up. Its just feels like something is missing. Maybe someone with writing experience can point at the problem, please?

Add to it the very ambitious attempt to do an RPG in MMGO without sufficient funding and well... *sadly looks at Zakuul. It could be so damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpS0Qlh13QY And yes.

I heard that we can kill Kalyo, but I did not do it specifically. But if my PC could, he would have broke her neck right after reaching his goal.

It seems to me that in the KOTFE we had to play a sort of "Outcast", who lost everything and devoted his life to the Resistance (that is, the Alliance). But the script completely forgot about the main goal - the murder of Vitiate. PC does nothing to get rid of Valky. Why is the main theme of the story - a confrontation with Arсann / Vaylin, and not a confrontation with the Immortal Emperor?
To rush "to fight with a tyrant," when an immortal tyrant sits in the head of a PC, for the PC somehow stupid.

Perhaps the developers needed to sacrifice some expensive cutscenes (which sometimes just irritate the players) and work out the script well?

While the Outlander and Valkorion was trapped in carbonite, there were five years period of oppressing peace in the galaxy. Considering Republic are about to win the war against the Sith, who are badly losing. I won't defend Emperor Arcann's tyrannical rule, but against corrupt senate and the dark council, I can't judge him for stomping all over them to keep them pacified and being hated for it. Remember how many superweapons both sides have? How many corrupt politicians the republic have and how Jedi have been manipulating the events? Even the death rate alone in Imperial Agent-Jadus story? And Saresh was about to invade Ziost during its evacuation before the genocide.

Arcann is just simple icon to hate. What happened in Star Wars happened in real life too, people want it to be simple.

And nobody else except you and Valkorion's children can see Valkorion. Why wouldn't everyone pretend he isn't a threat. Even Lana who warn you about him became "let's put that aside and focus on the situation at hand".
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Jade Empire is the worse Bioware worldbuilding ever and prove that white men can't write s*it about the people they broke and colonized without it becoming a stereotype mess... no surprise, they don't make sequels and pretend they never make it. They should stay that way until they have more diverse writing staff.

I think I heard the "brining piece to the countries who can not stop fighting among themselves" somewhere. "Pacifying" too.

Offtopic: I wounder, how does it feel to be hired for your race, gender or sexuality first and your skills and talent second.

Huh?

Not sure if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, but I don't think we should start blaming people's work just because they're from x ethnicity. Especially when they had nothing to do with whatever happened forever ago. It isn't appropriate.
No idea, not a fan of quotas. But I think I'd feel pretty sad if I was only hired somewhere just because I'm a woman or the fact that my skin colour is dark. I'd want to be hired because they actually love my work and believe that I can strengthen the team with my skills.

I am not even sure that he wants to save the throne and Zakuul. Or even wanted the throne as well except as a mean of getting revenge over his father. But among other bad things, he has still pacified The Republic and the Sith Empire by stripping them from their means and weapons. Bad and not bad at the same time...
I would not consider him a Sith, by the way. He was on the dark side at that time, but being a Sith requires to follow a code he is not following.

There is a clear issue with the dark vs light answers in this game. And this is a reason why I do not like playing LS. To always give light side answers, you always have to choose the dumbest, softest, not at all credible choice. At least in the vanilla part as I did not go through the other parts with my JC.
As per the chapters, I guess that the issue is that the story is the same for every single character. It suits quite well to my SI but would probably suit less to other characters I have.

The biggest issue of the chapters is that it kills any kind of roleplay people would like to do as there can only be one single PC having this history. It is not different from many othe MMOs where the PC is always the saviour/hero everybody was waiting for, but this is a far higher level here... Anyway, as I am not roleplayer anymore, it does not bother me too much.
As per the story... Valkorion offers the throne because he wants it back, it is quite logical. Arcann offers it probably because he wants to get rid of it. Satele and Marr say that the only solution is that we take it, but I wonder if it means that we actually have to become Emperor/Empress (which I did not do btw). But in any case, I do not think that we should try to find any reason why the PC would be a good ruler on Zakuul, it is not even the question here. He/she happens to be there at the right time and save the people. In most fantasy story, the person who does this becomes the ruler, even in a totally foreign country, that is how the stories work. :P

I don't know about you but... If it was me and I had to face Arcann and his charming little sister, I would probably pee in my pants, shut up and do whatever they want as long as me and my family can stay alive. Don't forget that Arcann has the fleet and a powerful army from the start. He is not starting from nothing. I'd rather not try to be a hero in that situation, thank you.
And there are plenty of places where this kind of things happen, don't you think?

OK, that part is the part I do not particularly like. But... It tends to remind me that machines might one day be more powerful that we human will ever be. Because they could be more logical, more clever, and definitely not at all sensitive to emotions of any kind. Pure cold thinking. So... yes, I do not find so incredible that Scorpio can steal the throne and I would expect that someday humanity have this kind of surprises (which btw is a big theme in other science fiction styles such as postcyberpunk).