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What do I get as a subscriber award - I already have Shae and Nico!

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What do I get as a subscriber award - I already have Shae and Nico!

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Sarova
04.02.2018 , 01:10 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by SFDebris View Post
MARKETER: I've cooked up a plan that will encourage new people to subscribe, but it will make our long-term, most loyal customers feel we care nothing for them.

BOSS: ...

MARKETER: Sir?

BOSS: Oh, sorry, I thought you were going to follow that up with the downside of the plan. Make it so!
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04.02.2018 , 01:52 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by SFDebris View Post
MARKETER: I've cooked up a plan that will encourage new people to subscribe, but it will make our long-term, most loyal customers feel we care nothing for them.

BOSS: ...

MARKETER: Sir?

BOSS: Oh, sorry, I thought you were going to follow that up with the downside of the plan. Make it so!
I'm not sure I understand. If you already have Nico and Shae, that doesn't necessarily mean you've been a subscriber all throughout the years since they were originally offered. It means you were a subscriber for two specific months. That's not really "long-term" or "most loyal."

Players who earn them through this new promotion are getting them by doing the exact same thing others did to get them: subscribing at a certain time. If you already have the rewards, then you don't have to subscribe to get them because you got them years before everyone else did.

I think what you're talking about has to do with a different reward system entirely. Something where the longer one stays subscribed, the more rewards they unlock. I think that's an interesting idea and maybe it should be implemented, but I don't see how that kind of system relates to this promotion regarding Nico and Shae.
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04.02.2018 , 02:11 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
I'm not sure I understand. If you already have Nico and Shae, that doesn't necessarily mean you've been a subscriber all throughout the years since they were originally offered. It means you were a subscriber for two specific months. That's not really "long-term" or "most loyal."
Good point, I guess that means that they are disregarding those people IN ADDITION to their most loyal long-term supporters! Thanks for pointing out the list of people who are getting absolutely nothing from these "rewards" is even larger than I thought!
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Lunablade
04.02.2018 , 02:46 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinhammer View Post
The people crying about the definition of "exclusive" need to go look the word up. It is STILL an exclusive. The companions are STILL "exclusively" for subscribers only. I also love the sense of entitlement people have as though BW somehow owed them those comps. No, they didn't. Your contract, for lack of a better term, with BW for your $15 a month (or whatever you pay) is for your game time. That's it. That's all you get for your money. Anything else you get besides that is just icing on the cake. You are in no way shape or form owed free mounts, pets, companions, anything of the sort. And before anyone suggests, it, no I am not a BW apologist. I just look at the situation logically and understand what I'm paying for. And I don't care if BW decides to give someone else the same PIXELS I have.
This, and I have few more thoughts to add on that :

1. It seems like everyone is forgetting here the free cc subscribers are getting each month , that's something which BW doesn't really need to give at all, and its a reward itself for being subbed to the game. The people which have been subbed to the game longer acquired now a lot more of those than any of the people which recently started or rejoined the game and with which they could have got way more things than those people can in the game.

2. Some of the people which are making all this fuss because BW is giving two freaking companions to the subscribers for which never BW claimed how they will be exclusive forever only for some subscribers in the first place like their lives are dependent on it, and portraying the new subscribers and the people which returned to the game in all negative ways are doing huge disservice to the game by making those players to feel unwelcome and bad here and by spreading all this negativity. They I guess don't realize how those players are equally important for the game long term survival as the old veterans, especially to the one which got into the position with the recent number of the players of losing so many of its servers and of the big server merges and for which its obvious how the current budget is very limited because of which its content development suffers.

3. Also it seems how some people here don't realize that those companions are given now under the same conditions under which they were given before to subscribers. Anyone who got them in the past could also just sub to get them and than unsubscribe , it didn't need to be the game vet at all.

When it comes to the vets of this game I'm rly curious about how the true statistic looks about how many players have played this game for a long time now without ever taking the breaks or unsubscribing.

Besides that they I guess don't realize how some long term players could have missed on those for various reasons to ( some could got sick and end up in the hospital , some could be deployed on the various military missions around the world, some could be in the process of moving cities or states and some could got into the financial trouble which would make them also unable to continue playing even if they wanted to - in the time of the previous promotion ) and how those people also want some of those companions now.

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Drenovade
04.02.2018 , 02:49 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by SFDebris View Post
Good point, I guess that means that they are disregarding those people IN ADDITION to their most loyal long-term supporters! Thanks for pointing out the list of people who are getting absolutely nothing from these "rewards" is even larger than I thought!
I'm not following your logic. If you recognize that it is only players who subbed for two specific months that are not getting anything from this promotion(because they already got the rewards), then what is the significance of long-term supporters not getting anything? This isn't a promotion meant to reward long-term supporters and they've never held a promotion that only rewards players who have been subbed for several years. Like I said, that would be a new, separate reward system.
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MikeCobalt
04.02.2018 , 02:59 PM | #96
I think they should "Reward" everybody equally. Something that all players would *Value. Gifts that reward Some then bring down Other people Gifts are bound to create animosity. Something Everybody values (wants) at This time. This game has "6 Years" of valuable content everybody would love to receive and make Everybody happy, Pick something.

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04.02.2018 , 03:00 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
I'm not sure I understand. If you already have Nico and Shae, that doesn't necessarily mean you've been a subscriber all throughout the years since they were originally offered. It means you were a subscriber for two specific months. That's not really "long-term" or "most loyal."

Players who earn them through this new promotion are getting them by doing the exact same thing others did to get them: subscribing at a certain time. If you already have the rewards, then you don't have to subscribe to get them because you got them years before everyone else did.

I think what you're talking about has to do with a different reward system entirely. Something where the longer one stays subscribed, the more rewards they unlock. I think that's an interesting idea and maybe it should be implemented, but I don't see how that kind of system relates to this promotion regarding Nico and Shae.

Well I can honestly state I have been here since before launch (June 2009) and only left one month due to a personal situation and have all the rewards but yet they don't seem to value my sub now do they? while I don't care if they give out the old companions, I do care when they start ignoring subs that have these rewards and offer nothing but then if they don't value my sub maybe I should take it elsewhere.
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04.02.2018 , 03:05 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
I'm not following your logic. If you recognize that it is only players who subbed for two specific months that are not getting anything from this promotion(because they already got the rewards), then what is the significance of long-term supporters not getting anything? This isn't a promotion meant to reward long-term supporters and they've never held a promotion that only rewards players who have been subbed for several years. Like I said, that would be a new, separate reward system.
Oh, the logic is simple: the most loyal long-term supporters would have subscribed consistently (because they're the most loyal) and for several years (because they're long-term) and thus would have to have received these rewards because if their subscription stopped they wouldn't be the most loyal and if it was only recent they wouldn't be long term. Other people who are not the most loyal or are not long-term supporters might also not receive the rewards, which makes the list of subscribers not receiving subscriber rewards larger certainly, but the first group definitely will not receive subscriber rewards despite being subscribers.
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Drenovade
04.02.2018 , 03:18 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by SFDebris View Post
Oh, the logic is simple: the most loyal long-term supporters would have subscribed consistently (because they're the most loyal) and for several years (because they're long-term) and thus would have to have received these rewards because if their subscription stopped they wouldn't be the most loyal and if it was only recent they wouldn't be long term. Other people who are not the most loyal or are not long-term supporters might also not receive the rewards, which makes the list of subscribers not receiving subscriber rewards larger certainly, but the first group definitely will not receive subscriber rewards despite being subscribers.
I know all that. I'm asking what your point is. Is there something significant about yet another promotion being held where long-term subscribers don't get anything for being long-term subscribers? As I said, no such promotion has ever been held that only rewards long-term subscribers who stayed subbed for years. That would be a different reward system.

Edit: Added "for being long-term subscribers" to clarify what I meant.
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Joonbeams
04.02.2018 , 03:22 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
I know all that. I'm asking what your point is. Is there something significant about yet another promotion being held where long-term subscribers don't get anything? As I said, no such promotion has ever been held that only rewards long-term subscribers who stayed subbed for years. That would be a different reward system.
Other than the fact that every single time promotions are offered that treat players who've not been subbed better than those who have, it smarts a bit for the game's most loyal? Other than that, prolly no significance...