Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

I think Valko says that Vaylin has always been the strongest of his children. So I guess she can see us because she's more powerfull in the Force than Arcann, though he clearly is a far better fighter than her.

As for Valko planning to get one of his children as his next host, I thought about that too. But I though that Vaylin's conditioning on Nathema may have been to give him an advantage over her if he was willing to take over her body.


On a side note, my sis and I had a good laugh going through the Arcann romance with her male SI. This was funny and... awkward xD
The cutscene was clearly meant to be played with a female character.

Yeah, I have enjoyed SoR right through to kotET immensely, trying to pick up all of the hints, the dialogues, events, codex. There's so much there. Yes there is some plot holes but I think it was a very well done with what they could do.

While not perfect, I love the story very much! I enjoyed Kotxx more than the previous ones including Vanilla.

I too enjoyed the SoR and KOTFE/ET parts pretty much. I like replaying some of the chapters over and over again.
It's sad that we can't replay class stories and SoR without redoing a character from lvl1 though.

I wonder why are the class stories called "vanilla" ?

A Vanilla game is a common gaming term used to refer to the original game or base game without expansions or additional content or third party mods etc depending on the game. So in SWtoR's case, it refers to the content available in the original release / on release day, without the expansions. Which means just the planet arcs and class stories. A simple way to mean "I'm not talking about the expansions / DLC, I like everything that was in place before they existed" when saying - "I like the vanilla game/content".

I do not know... I wonder. Is it because he fears her power and wants to get control over a threat, or is it to get a better access to her? Vaylin is crazy (sorry Paul!). For me there is no way she would accept her father inside her, while Arcann might have accepted, at least at first. But I guess that Valkorion needs his host to surrender totally so that he can take control and I am not sure any of his children would let him do so.

I just got to Nathema.. why does every other character - Lana, Theron, Vaylin etc get affected by the world, and Arcann refuses to go because of the effect it would have... but not the PC, even a force using PC isn't bothered at all by it (apart from able to say it's unsettling whether force user or not)? can't be Valky's shielding, he can barely even talk there. *mutters at non-force user priority* xD

I understand that in the KOTFE our PC was engaged in robbery, terrorism and other "sweet things", but at the same time "evil" was Arcann, who tried to stop the terrorists' attacks on Zakuul and save the galaxy from the threat of the Immortal Emperor?

If we look at the other side, then our PC is just ... the bastard..
That's why I hated the chapters with robbery and terrorism. What the... ? My noble Sith warrior just would have called Arcann to a duel, and did not do such an abomination!

I liked that scene when Senya appears in Outlander's head. Then Valkorion once for the whole game for a second becomes a human.
And then he again becomes a pompous immortal fool, until his PC finally kills.

Thanks for the explanation

Well, I don't know either. I suppose that Valko wants a powerfull host, but at the same time I guess he need to be able to control the person already inside or else it could end up like Vitiate/Sel-Makor or Kem/Zash with the 2 spirits fighting for control over the body. Well, that's actually what happens with Valko and the Outlander at the end.
So Vaylin's conditionning could be handy for that.
I never actually kneeled before Valko so I don't know what happens if you do, and my JK always refused his powers, but it should make it easier for Valko to take over your body if you do.

The only thing I can come up with is that Valko being inside you somehow at least partially shields you from it.

Vaylin doesn't seem that affected except the can't use the Force as much as she'd like to.
Arcann had already been there so he knows what it'd do to him.

I still find it hard to believe that Scourge would never had taken the JK there to show him/her what Vitiate was trully capable of, and what the Galaxy would look like if the JK is unable to stop him.
Revan went there while investigating about the Emperor, Meetra Surik went there while searching for Revan, and Darth Nyriss took Scourge there to convince him that the Emperor had to be stopped.
Scourge is not an idiot, why wouldn't he show it to the JK ?

In regards to Scourge and JK it may have been because he didn't need to convince the JK that the Emperor had to be destroyed/stopped/killed w/e. The JK already shared that viewpoint. I dunno, it was a waste to not mention it ever in-game until KotET though.