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What do I get as a subscriber award - I already have Shae and Nico!

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What do I get as a subscriber award - I already have Shae and Nico!

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serenitty
04.01.2018 , 07:24 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
It seems the issue some people have here is that they assumed the rewards for participating in promotions were "one-time only," and that the rewards would never make another appearance and be offered to players again. In actuality, the rewards were never intended to be permanently exclusive and it was never stated or implied they would be.

Being a loyalty reward doesn't automatically make it a permanently exclusive reward. If you earn the reward, great, you got it and don't have to worry about paying anything the next time it's offered. You will have already earned the reward, and much sooner than everyone else I might add.

No one is being cheated, but people still lose their minds at the thought they won't have super-rare unobtainables on their characters anymore, even though there was no reason to assume they would stay super-rare unobtainables to begin with.

Having said that, my personal view is that only companions, story chapters, or anything relevant to a character's in-game story should be made available again. Promotional armor sets, titles, pets, toy items, etc., are generally suitable rewards to remain exclusive to those who earned them at the time.

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if a certain promotional armor set or pet made a reappearance eventually, but for the most part, I think keeping that kind of content exclusive is a fine thing to do.

If having permanently exclusive loyalty rewards is so important to you, then please enjoy all the other cosmetic rewards that will never, or are extremely unlikely to, be made available again.
These companions are offered as April subscriber rewards yes?
There are subscribers that already have these companions so, what are those subscribers getting as a reward?....Nothing!
Just because we had these subscriber rewards two years ago/one year ago doesn't mean we shouldn't get a subscriber reward now, does it?
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Drenovade
04.01.2018 , 07:33 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Highlandscot View Post
Nico was part of a multi-month offer leading into 4.0 where subs got a duster, pistols, speeder, and Nico, plus the promise of an adventure while playing HK-55, and THEN only if they had a continuous subscription over several months. (There was even a huge forum controversy when people discovered that they weren't getting Nico because they missed a sub deadline.) That's where a lot of the outrage is coming from now, as players that had to sub for multiple months for a companion "reward" watch others get the same companion (advertised as "exclusive") for subbing for one month.
Also, I'm not sure you're correct on that. I believe Nico was offered to those who were subbed during the month of August in 2015. It didn't have to be a continuous subscription from other months, that was only for the HK-55 bonus chapter.

So, this new promotion offers both companions for a whopping $15 cheaper than they were 2-3 years ago. Consider that $15 going towards having the companions before everyone else and as insurance in case the companions were never offered again.
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PorsaLindahl
04.01.2018 , 07:41 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Savyl View Post
That's great for everyone who doesn't have Shae or Nico but it also punishes those of us who already have these two companions. We are denied a subscriber award. Not a great way to award your loyal customers BioWare! I think for those of us who already have Shae and Nico that we should get an exclusive companion or even two... I would even be happy with only one special companion, like maybe our original jedi master or satele shan, etc? Depending on your class. I want a subscriber award to be equal or even better than the combination of both Shae and Nico. This is the only fair option.
As I predicted in all of those "Give us X companion" threads: Those that already have will feel slighted. And rightfully so.

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Drenovade
04.01.2018 , 07:41 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by serenitty View Post
These companions are offered as April subscriber rewards yes?
There are subscribers that already have these companions so, what are those subscribers getting as a reward?....Nothing!
Just because we had these subscriber rewards two years ago/one year ago doesn't mean we shouldn't get a subscriber reward now, does it?
I'm not against there being a reward for those who already have them, but I don't think it's really that necessary either. Not every sub reward needs to have worth to every single player. If they wanted to throw in some CC or something like that, I'd be fine with it though.
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Klarick
04.01.2018 , 07:47 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroTypeR View Post
Yep, they were One-Time Only, non-repeating rewards that are now being repeated.
Indeed. It was obvious then. They lied.
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Keta
04.01.2018 , 08:16 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by PorsaLindahl View Post
As I predicted in all of those "Give us X companion" threads: Those that already have will feel slighted. And rightfully so.
I really don't care whether they give away old rewards after a lengthy period of time or not. What I do care about is the "Subscriber Rewards for SOME of our customers" promotions. Give those that already have those two something else. Like a T-shirt for our characters that says "I subscribed to SW:TOR and all I got was this lousy T-shirt". Hmm I actually like that idea!
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BRKMSN
04.01.2018 , 08:19 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
Besides, 2-3 years of having an exclusive companion should be reward enough in itself. Wanting to make it permanently exclusive is just saying that you don't want others to have it. It doesn't affect your gameplay at all if others get the same reward, so don't worry about it.
You see? This is why I keep arguing in these threads.

We should be happy we had "early access."
We should be happy for others now.
It's bad to want some things in the game to be exclusive.
This decision doesn't affect me at all.

The 4 statements above are wrong. While early access is generally a positive thing so long as the early access period isn't bugged. That isn't what we were led to believe those rewards would be. We should be happy for others now? Maybe some people are and if I had a friend that didn't have them before that is getting them now, I probably would be happy for him. But there's no rule saying we have to be happy. It's a personal decision. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting exclusive items or wanting exclusives in the game. Obviously, some people won't get exclusives. That isn't reason enough to think they are evil and wanting them to remain exclusive is, in and of itself, bad. Finally, the decision affects this game and its future. If we play the game or like the game, it's future does affect us. I can't guarantee that this is a bad decision. I just believe it is. So I am not happy about it and believe it affects all of us, not just me.

I'll keep arguing as long as I keep seeing the same responses.

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Highlandscot
04.01.2018 , 08:20 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
Also, I'm not sure you're correct on that. I believe Nico was offered to those who were subbed during the month of August in 2015. It didn't have to be a continuous subscription from other months, that was only for the HK-55 bonus chapter.

So, this new promotion offers both companions for a whopping $15 cheaper than they were 2-3 years ago. Consider that $15 going towards having the companions before everyone else and as insurance in case the companions were never offered again.
Actually, I'm quite sure I'm correct because there was a huge uproar when people discovered that they weren't getting the companion they expected because they didn't read the entire offer, which included the notice that a player had to be subscribed for all the months to get all of the rewards. I was possible to sub in September and get things like the guns, etc. but anything previous (in this case, Nico) wasn't awarded.

Quote: Originally Posted by Drenovade View Post
The reality is, EA/Bioware have the right to decide how valuable their products are and how they want to price them. You agreed to their terms before you started playing, as did we all. You can make incorrect assumptions about how a reward is being offered and complain how unfair the pricing difference is, or just enjoy the game and be happy for those that can now access the rewards as well.

Besides, 2-3 years of having an exclusive companion should be reward enough in itself. Wanting to make it permanently exclusive is just saying that you don't want others to have it. It doesn't affect your gameplay at all if others get the same reward, so don't worry about it.
Look, you're welcome to bloviate to your little heart's content, but don't try and create what I'm saying out of whole cloth.. Where have I written that I have strong feelings either way? Aside from saying this is a failure on BioWare's part because a "subscriber reward" that an existing subscriber already has is no reward at all, but an act of laziness, I've expressed no opinion.

As far as value, you would think BioWare would consider the value of a current continuous subscriber vs. the value of a one-month sub that many people will jump on to get the Nico and Shae companions. It's a bad idea to chase new subscribers while insulting your current subscribers. If it's a money-grab BioWare wanted, they should have just offered them in the Cartel Market for an insane amount of coins.

But no. The current plan causes the kind of uproar which allows people like you to come and post your hollow little arguments like, "you know what you signed up for, you agreed to this and that, blah blah blah". Go you, I'm sure that's getting you lots of cheers and whistles from the cheap seats.

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Lunablade
04.01.2018 , 08:20 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by JennyFlynn View Post
#1 - Final Chance to get Nico ... before the closing date of this promotion
#2 - Final Chance to get Nico ... forever

That's at least two ways of reading it. You clearly read it as #2 making you just as guilty of "adding words to change the meaning", because that's what you're doing, too. You read and added the 'forever' for yourself, because that is what you made of it and hoped for but that is not what they actually stated, either.
This is correct, but even if this argument is repeated for million of times for some people will not be enough since they either have perception issues or just like to twist and turn the things in the direction which suits them if the things don't go in the way they imagined they would.

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TyonYlle
04.01.2018 , 08:29 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by JennyFlynn View Post
#1 - Final Chance to get Nico ... before the closing date of this promotion
#2 - Final Chance to get Nico ... forever

That's at least two ways of reading it. You clearly read it as #2 making you just as guilty of "adding words to change the meaning", because that's what you're doing, too. You read and added the 'forever' for yourself, because that is what you made of it and hoped for but that is not what they actually stated, either.
As Switzerland, yeah this basically describes this whole situation. And while some might blame Bio, ultimately the two groups have done the exact same thing which is read into Bio's open ended statement be it by adding "before the closing date of this promotion", or "forever", or as an absolute "will not be offered again".