Why NO KILL option on Ashara?

What is funny, I spoke to a friend of mine, who all but plays dark side and he romanced Ashara and he went and saw the you tube (he's not playing anymore) and said that any sith worth their salt would have never let her walk out the way she did with that attitude. He went on to say the comment she made as being an equal was laughable. He said when she goes and defeats the Valkorion clan like the inquisitor did then and only then can she say that until then she is only mouthing off and the inquisitor should have at least been able to make her walk out with her tail between her legs realizing her mistake.

Not being able to kill Andronikos is just as much of a gross character assassination. Any pirate who looted a DS SI's ships and didn't even know who the Empress was would be killed instantly.

And as to Lana staying alive? You're kidding, right? Bioware doesn't care about lesbian/bi women who play this game or that Lana's our only representative. I'd put money on the choice in the next flashpoint being killing her off to save Theron or vice versa. Cash money.

I mean, they've already given Theron books, comics, and forced players in both factions to spend way too much time with his parents. Lana's gotten none of that attention.. Theron is probably going to be the hero of the next flashpoint while they're making Lana seem like she's channeling DS Jaesa now. They gave Theron a decent customizable model but made Lana's look like a dope fiend. But sure, Lana's the protected one.

And in KOTFE through Iokath, out of the returned companions, there were 4 women companions returned vs. 14 men. As of right now the total, adding in Temple and these Alliance Alerts, is 7 returned female companions vs. 17 men. You're worried about the treatment Nadia and Mako will get? They haven't even been back. How is it "special treatment" to not even have them return for more than 2 years? No, they wont' see hardship because they're not even included in the story.

But since you want all the companions killable, I hope you'll feel the same when Theron is killable and written out of the story along with Lana, and Bioware knocks off everyone else. And when there aren't any companions left, they'll turn away from story completely and focus on their favored group content players. Will that be better? That's what you're asking for. Hope you realize it, and realize that it ruins the game for everyone and helps nobody.

Love changes a lot of things, and if the SI loves Andronikos she'd understand him and know that he was doing it to find/save her. That kind of loyalty is worth something. He didn't give up, he kept raiding ships to try and find her, so it's a completely different situation. Now if the SI is not romancing him, then whatever, kill him if it serves your purpose to do so.

Lesbian/bi women are fortunate in that they fall under the 'dudebro' umbrella. You're attracted to the same people, so Lana is safe. The only part where the Lesbian person gets rooked in the deal is choice (and I'm sure there will be more bi women in the game in the future because it caters to the dudebros, so by extension you may benefit)...I understand that you only have Lana and more choice wouldn't hurt, but more choice is needed for straight women and gay men too, as there is only one male force user romance and he does not appeal to all as you well know.

I hope for both our sakes that they leave Theron and Lana alone. I'm not sure where this rumor of having to choose one or the other came from, but I hope that's not the case.

I'll give you that Theron had a book and some comics from which he was inspired from. Lana only has a short story on the Dev thread. I don't much care for his parents either, so I hear you on that. Sure Theron HAD a nice model, but look at what they did to him too, they made him look like a complete idiot with that ridiculous hair and ugly outfit. I can only hope we'll be allowed to put him back to how he was before, so in that situation Theron lovers that like his classic look were screwed over just as much as Lana people were. For what it's worth I wish they'd give her a better model, as in her face looks like the one with the green suit, rather than that weird dolly looking version they give her with any other outfit. And quite honestly, sorry to say, Lana always looked to me a bit like a dope fiend, or someone that suffered from perpetual cold or allergies.

You also seem to have missed the part where I said I'd rather not kill anyone, but that ship has sailed thanks to Bioware, THEY set the precedent and in that way, if SW has the right to kill their subordinate for something he did YEARS ago in real time, SI should have the same right. They're Sith it's their nature.

You think I'm doing this out of spite because of Quinn, I'm not, I'm saying what I'm saying because SI's character was assassinated. My and other dark side SIs aren't respectable Sith anymore after that moment, very much like CrutchCricket said in their hilarious, but sadly all too true post.

As for the rest of what you said, I will say this: The day they don't have companions anymore and veer from Story as their focal point, will be the day I'm gone for good. Story and comps made the game what it is, unique...without them I could just go play Age of Conan or Witcher or B&S or other generic grinder.

Not going to get into the who should be killable, who should not, argument. It has become just another bone of contention in the player base that serves no purpose other than to cause everyone to snipe at each other. BW started this s.hitstorm with making companions killable in the first place, and it has not been a positive thing for anyone.

I've often wondered if BW has a whiteboard of 'daily jokes' where they post crap they've stirred up on the forums and just sit back and have a good laugh over doughnuts and coffee.

That being said, I do agree that BW is picking off companions one by one, or moving them to the background so that they no longer have any purpose in the ongoing story, and I am not holding my breath for more story beyond 5.9. I've said in the past, that Lana's "grr kill the traitor" attitude is way over the top and that it will come down to the choice of either her or Theron. This effectively writes both out of the game story, story being the operative word. I really hope to be proven wrong, but I don't think BW will be happy until ALL companions are relegated to just crafting mules or battle buddies.

I will take you up on that bet. Because Lana's in on it. Theron's playing Double Agent. She and Theron came up with the plan together. That's where MY money lies. And the Commander is going to be made to look like an effing moron while Theron and Lana slap each other on the back for being so clever (A Cipher Nine Commander won't even have the option to be like, "Duh, I did the same thing in Act 2 of my personal story.") No. Lana and Theron will be made to look SUPER DUPER CLEVER and we won't even have the option to say "boo" to them about it.

Of COURSE more male companions have been returned because almost 75% of the companions are male. Why the huge disparity is a completely different argument, as is the lack of LGBTQ companion choices.

Um. I actually agree with you on most of this post but I want to point out that I am not a dudebro. LGBT women are actually not generally attracted to the exact same things as straight men, overall. There may be some exceptions but yeah. Not. The. Same. I know you weren't trying to be insulting here but you may wish to avoid this comparison in the future.

Fair enough. But you can at least run around with your normal looking Theron, right (I haven't checked the terminal because I don't need mine back right now, but I hope so, so you can at least use him for heroics and whatnot)?

I feel like given everything over the last few flashpoints and story arcs they are making Theron and Lana both unsympathetic as possible and that they might very well want to be all edgy and force another Torian/Vette choice. i don't think much of the writers anymore so I wouldn't put this past them.

But as you said, for everyone's sake I hope neither has a kill option. Because then they'll be gone for everyone.

I think Bioware is really veering as far away from story as they can, and they'll take any fan excuse to keep going. So I think one of the very dangerous things about insisting on all these kills is that they'll do it - and then there will be nobody left. I've only resubbed far enough to see the next flashpoint because I have zero faith they will do better than they are right now.

This Ashara event breaks another Sith Issue (They do Star Wars right)?
There's No Way any Sith would let their *Apprentice be an equal (or better) knowingly. Ashara's quip about "I woulda used my new moves on you" is an "Existential threat or Boast" its still an act of "Insubordination" nonetheless. A Sith (Especially council member and Hero of a list too long to mention) would see this as a weakness (Or shameful) and would not be allowed to exist.
As I stated before a Welp and thanks to the Zakuul story (from which most of the problems started) a Galactic Size Welp and Petty Sith.

Bioware made it possible to kill Leliana in DA:O and she was their bae, so I think anything is possible, really.

I wouldn't put that scenario past the devs in all honesty. I'm hoping Theron's been corrupted/controlled/cloned and Lana has nothing to do with it, but that would be another excellent way to shatter trust and make people dislike *both* of them, wouldn't it? And then you banish them both or walk out of the Alliance, back to the Republic or Empire and they're both gone. Game, set, match.

You DO know that Leliana was brought back to life by the Maker and is at the end of DA2 and is one of your character's main advisors in DA:I, right? Right?

So MY point still stands that BW will keep Lana safe. FFS, BW waved THE HAND OF GOD over their Bae and brought her back to life.

Maybe, while we may disagree with someone's wishes or opinion, we can just try and at least understand their motives for feeling that way; frustration, disappointment, a sense of feeling like the things you care for are being ripped away one by one. Maybe we can try that instead of judging, instead of making assumptive (and at times wrong) claims toward their motivation. Instead of trying to attack them and companions you know they do care about which is just as spiteful and wrong as you think the OP's post may be.

These boards disgust me lately and it feels more and more like it's turning into a cliquey high school playground. One of the other threads is full of assumptions and claims regarding jealousy as a motivation, among others, while no one bothers to listen to the actual reason (whether just or otherwise) someone feels that way. Nope, go ahead, stick to your assumptions about someone you don't even know, your judgment without actually knowing, talk **** about their reasons, mock it, enjoy your childish gossip about haters and 'some people'.

Maybe I should start claiming Arcann fans are psychopaths who only want to date him because his disfigured face wets their knickers? Will that make me cool, judging everyone that way, based on nothing but assinine assumptions? Or claim that every guy who wants Kira back must have a fetish for gingers? That those who want Nadia back must love the idea of younger girls with daddy issues? That anyone who dislikes Jaesa must be jealous of her rack? That any man who hates Quinn must be jealous of his firm butt cheeks? (No, none of the above is how I actually think, at all, it's merely examples.)

Or maybe it's just time for me to walk away from the forums. It used to bring enjoyment to engage in decent discussion here while awaiting new content updates and kept me revived, tied to the game, but now even that no longer seems possible.

Peace.