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Yes they should do something more with Vaylin

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Paulsutherland

03.17.2018 , 01:34 AM \| #231	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gamephil Seriously. Even if she didn't have a plan, she could have advised against it, or suggested that there might be a way to stop Vaylin that didn't give Valkorion more of what he wanted. But, nothing. Yeah, that would have been a nice option, but I get the feeling the DS version of KOTET was rushed more so or they didn't know how to end it. I'm still trying to work out why Senya appears at the end of that version.
Vaylineer

gamephil

03.17.2018 , 10:24 AM \| #232	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland Yeah, that would have been a nice option, but I get the feeling the DS version of KOTET was rushed more so or they didn't know how to end it. I'm still trying to work out why Senya appears at the end of that version. Also, considering that she throws the same tantrum if you kill Arcann as she does if he betrays her, I think she has enough mixed feelings about him that if you tall her, "I think Valkorion ate him", she might back down to help get him free. But, oh well. I always assumed Senya was just a Force ghost, maybe following you in through the holocron but basically just being able to go where she wants.

Paulsutherland

03.17.2018 , 11:59 AM \| #233	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gamephil Also, considering that she throws the same tantrum if you kill Arcann as she does if he betrays her, I think she has enough mixed feelings about him that if you tall her, "I think Valkorion ate him", she might back down to help get him free. But, oh well. I always assumed Senya was just a Force ghost, maybe following you in through the holocron but basically just being able to go where she wants. Considering you just humiliated her at her own party, I wouldn't be so sure on that. Can force ghosts enter 'dreams' uninvited?
Vaylineer

gamephil

03.17.2018 , 12:16 PM \| #234	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland Considering you just humiliated her at her own party, I wouldn't be so sure on that. Oh, I know, but as long as we're dreaming for a moment of this being rewritten, I choose to also just take the entire scene with making her kneel in pain and kill it with fire, as the young people say. I find the idea that she was the unreasonable one in the final scene after we do that to her to be ... misplaced. Quote: Can force ghosts enter 'dreams' uninvited? I don't know that they can enter dreams or whatever that was at all. But the living could, using the holocron, I would't rule out the dead being able to, as well.

fishpeople

03.17.2018 , 01:41 PM \| #235	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gamephil I don't know that they can enter dreams or whatever that was at all. But the living could, using the holocron, I would't rule out the dead being able to, as well. Some form of unconsciousness? That or the Holocron put everyone into the between life and death state realm?

gamephil

03.17.2018 , 07:50 PM \| #236	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by fishpeople Some form of unconsciousness? That or the Holocron put everyone into the between life and death state realm? It appeared to be the same kind of thing as in the early part of KotFE, and Valkorion is there, so I think it's supposed to be in the same mindscape thing, but who knows, really? Maybe the devs. I like between life and death, though.

Paulsutherland

03.17.2018 , 10:12 PM \| #237	Quote
Hmmm the Holocron was keeping whats-his-face in state between life and death, so maybe.?
Vaylineer

gamephil

03.18.2018 , 07:46 AM \| #238	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland Hmmm the Holocron was keeping whats-his-face in state between life and death, so maybe.? And since Arcann and Senya use it to enter the Outlander's mind, if ghost-Senya also does, it means that even after being destroyed in the mindscape, there's still a connection to it. A connection Vaylin, having not been cut in half like Valkorion, can follow back. She may not be able to jump from body to body (I still don't have any idea how Arcann would know that0, but she's still there in the box, a... present? ... for Life Day.

Paulsutherland

03.18.2018 , 09:23 AM \| #239	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gamephil And since Arcann and Senya use it to enter the Outlander's mind, if ghost-Senya also does, it means that even after being destroyed in the mindscape, there's still a connection to it. A connection Vaylin, having not been cut in half like Valkorion, can follow back. She may not be able to jump from body to body (I still don't have any idea how Arcann would know that0, but she's still there in the box, a... present? ... for Life Day. Yeah, I don't know how Arcann came to that conclusion either. I would assume it would require us to zap her body or another body with the Holocron? Then let the spirit in/back while putting the host into the Holocron?
Vaylineer

bluehufsa

03.18.2018 , 10:18 AM \| #240	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland Can force ghosts enter 'dreams' uninvited? Yes they can, it happens in a certain class mission on Voss.
"Rainbow Demon - pick up your heart and run Rainbow Demon - lives for his sword and his gun"

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