Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

Funny - I would LOVE if we could play a Machiavellian Sith or Agent Commander.

If we talk about characters in SWTOR – Valkorion on Zakuul even managed “being loved” part (at the expence of Sith Empire). Maybe Jadus or Vowrawn? LS/Grey Sith Inquisitor have shades of this, if you think that they mask “do not go on killing spree without good reason” by pretending being differently rational.

Lana I do see as someone who aspire for that particular type of leadership. But she fails at “10 steps ahead of everyone” part. For now . Give her time and who knows? Of course if Theron IS a triple agent and Lana was on it, then I will take that back. And if that plan can be explained logically and she was the mastermind behind it, I will give her 8 out of 10 on Magnificent Bastard and Pragmatic Hero scales (and no one will ever convince me that Commander is not a puppet king).

As for Arcann - nope. Started well, but failed at "avoid being hated" part. Hard.

P.S. The only character I can come up on the top of my head that I can call Machiavellian is Vetinary from Terry Pratchett Disk World series.

From what I recall he says something like,"I've seen you fight and my calculations said I could defeat you" or something along those lines.
Then he summons two droids and himself and that's somehow enough?
It's like he hasn't been traveling with the pc at all.

And then he seems to be surprised that his plan failed. Two droids and a guy with a gun.

Gameplay and story segregation? Overleveling? Baras fight supposed to be hard too, but... well.

Or maybe PC SW had the same weakness against droids as Scourge...

Or it was an elaborate suicide attempt to avoid all this conflicting loyalties dilemma.

Of course Quinn can be very enthusiastic about killing SW and he still brings same 2 droids.

Maybe he was thinking that SW will go down fast without the healer? I know some do...

I laughed harder than I should have
Poor guy is so done with Sith drama

Even before 2.0, this particular fight is very easy without healer so......Either he didn't really know the SW too well or it's a suicide attempt. The Baras fight wasn't that hard back then I recalled. But it sure took longer than what it is nowadays. I remember back in the day some of the story boss fights would need a bit effort to beat too if you're not very well geared and overleveled.

I'm not sure how to take it that he could have been so wrong!
Though in all seriousness, I think that they should have cut out the betrayal part after Quinn was no longer killable. It only brought frustration to those who did want to kill him but couldn't. It also didn't really have any bearing on the story afterwards to my memory.

I remember telling him that he's no longer allowed in my quarters, then when you're back on the ship, you can basically have sex with him right after.😦?

Weird.

I bring this up a lot, it's because the companion chats are not connected to the story in regards to what's said really, so one of my SW's had to break up with him twice! after the fight then in the ship when he got the more forceful companion chat where he's ready for well.. something. and I'm like uh nope, I already said no!

edit: not my only romance "what?" thing at the moment. My SI who had never been with anyone except Andronikos apparently has the break-up with Lana, Theron or Koth quest.. she had never even flirted with any of those once.

Yeah they ****ed up with this storyline. To make sense you have to time his conversation around it. Either you start the romance way after the incident or before( but this is no longer possible now.)I also don't see how they couldn't add one conversation on ship after the incident back then. But that was long time ago.

I heard about that!
I still haven't had the alliance alert for him. It just won't show up.

It's not really a storyline I've ever heavily looked into, but from what other's have said to me the timing for the whole arc is odd. I mean why propose when you know your going to perform a betrayal down the line, likely sooner rather than later? His reticence to begin a relationship could be partly because of the deception, working on the assumption that his character is generally interested...not all of these things add together I wonder if his character had several very different iterations and they never really settled on one continuity? Unfortunate for people that connected with him and his return in KotET is unkind considering it was already a confusing stance and then they gave the potential for it to happen again without any real clarification...