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Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

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Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

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Asmodesu
03.08.2018 , 06:17 PM | #2231
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland View Post
meh I don't know, either way, I won't be running it on any non force users.
I was just curious as I never get any actual explanation. That's all, no matter I'll continue getting none even when I specifically ask lmao.
I've ran it on an agent, Inquisitor, Warrior and smuggler so far, smuggler and Agent felt, outside of chapter 12, funny at times, but not out of place. Agent was awesome in my opinion, so much extra dialogue with an agent. But I will agree my SW felt the best due to her personal history, being far greater and deeper then a JK's, with Vitiate/Valkorion. But that wasn't to do with Force, just with the Emperor and his Wrath. SoR and Ziost really hit home runs in that regard with conversations between Wrath and Emperor etc, and KotFE was an awesome continuation from them for a SW.

But as I said, Agent played great in my opinion. Which is why I'm taking another one through for Arcann xD
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MrJunay
03.08.2018 , 06:22 PM | #2232
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland View Post
Well the lack of force abilities against force users should be an instant death sentence, especially against Arcann & Vaylin.
This. So I just laughed at the smuggler's fight with Arcann. It's silly to even imagine such a duel. But by the will of the script, the smuggler won. (facepalm)

The 12th chapter is as stupid as the non-forceuser fight with Arсann. Marr lectures on the Force (why ?!), PC creeps through the forest, defeats the illusion of Vaylin in the cave and creates a "super weapon", which is absolutely not necessary (I sold it).

I went KOTFE as a smuggler and I must say that it was not just stupid, it was ridiculous. It was an Indian film in which the "poor guy" scattered a bunch of enemies with one blow.

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JakRoanin
03.08.2018 , 08:14 PM | #2233
Love Indian films! I think somewhere there is a basis in canon where a non FS can see Force phenomena with another FS around. Carth did. You can also make it work through legacy I guess.

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revkashepard
03.08.2018 , 08:51 PM | #2234
That does seem to be a marvelous idea for a vid... add dubbings, add some bombastic sound effect, camera effects and then someone singing in the background.. A++

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revkashepard
03.08.2018 , 08:59 PM | #2235
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJunay View Post
Very interestingly written! Actually, for forceusers, there are no special problems in the justification of romance with Arcann. But what do non-forceusers do? I can not think of a reason why Arсann paid any attention to the miserable smuggler.
Smuggler looks like in the KOTFE, like a saddle on a cow.
Well, I despise Corso so that's out of the picture so quick but there's Koth and Theron which I felt interesting for a non-force user pairing.

I don't mind Arcann not really fit everyone which is fine (since I already feel that way for most of my toons). I would feel weird out as well.

But I don't mind that some characters doesn't really fit the story well. As far as non-magic character goes, I still preferred to play Infiltrator Shepard in the trilogy and Rogue Hawke in Dragon Age 2. None of the non-FU stories really have the same equivalence or impact.... I just have a bias for preferring to play a Sith in SWTOR.

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Kraytdragonegg
03.08.2018 , 09:41 PM | #2236
The redeemed Arcann strikes me very much as a momma's boy. This is not a critique but this is what his personality resembles to me. I think this is a positive development that he will be another male romance option for females (presumably both sexes). Female characters mostly do not get good male romance options (traitors, walking STDs, the like) and have far less to choose from than male characters. I am satisfied with this development as redeemed Arcann seems a wholesome male LI (and you get a cool mother-in-law)!

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revkashepard
03.08.2018 , 11:06 PM | #2237
Quote: Originally Posted by Kraytdragonegg View Post
The redeemed Arcann strikes me very much as a momma's boy. This is not a critique but this is what his personality resembles to me. I think this is a positive development that he will be another male romance option for females (presumably both sexes). Female characters mostly do not get good male romance options (traitors, walking STDs, the like) and have far less to choose from than male characters. I am satisfied with this development as redeemed Arcann seems a wholesome male LI (and you get a cool mother-in-law)!
I find their relationship somewhat mirrored Leia and Ben, but its sad that we could never see more of that dynamic on-screen. Senya's children suffered under their father and Valkorion does somewhat represent toxic masculinity; expecting all of his children to be as ruthless and vicious and corrupted as he is.

Its still amazing that despite decades of separation, Arcann never bore resentment over his mother and gravitate to her for love while Vaylin actively trying to escape that. Wish Bioware could show more about the conversation they had about Thexan and also about you as the Outlander.

And yes, I'm not interested in most of for-hetfemale romances in this game. Het-Male players still have more options and variety of personality, but instead all of female options are non-force users rogueish or vigilante-ish or military character. I do romance such characters but its still so limited especially when the available option doesn't match my character's personalities...

Arcann will be a bisexual option and I like that he will be the first male Knight in Shining Armor romance for gaymers (there's many who wanted Alistair and Cullen to be bi). And I've converted other Bioware players to join in SWTOR just because of Arcann.. mwhaha

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RandomName_Ru
03.09.2018 , 03:36 AM | #2238
Late to the party, wall of text incoming.

Quote: Originally Posted by Asmodesu View Post
I was just curious as I never get any actual explanation. That's all, no matter I'll continue getting none even when I specifically ask lmao.
I guess it is all comes to personal preference.

I do agree that some classes fit the story better - funny thing that it is Force Users. JK, Consular and SW all have some connection to Vitiate and SI is an ideal host for Emperor IMO.

But others? Not so much.

For example, I can believe that Smuggler can decide to stick around Alliance even if they always have been a free spirit for me. But wanting the responsibility of leadership? Being COMMITTED? Ewwww. And why anyone in their right mind was thinking that they can do it? Lana wanted a puppet king or something?

Funny thing, I never had any problems with Agent, BH, Trooper or Smuggler taking on Force Users – it have happened in source material and in game.

But! They done so by being smart and crazy prepared. By having years of training and combat experience. By being unpredictable and seizing every advantage they can. By exploiting every weakness of opponent (like arrogance) and shooting a lot (and first). Or by blackmail.

I do dislike that this smart and cunning fighter walk strait to Arcann (someone who can toss them around like a ragdoll) and bash his face with a shield some Knight dropped. Why they are so eager to “dance with lightsaber”? Yes, Valky have been doing something to Outlander (which IMO ruins the “muggle” taking out the “wizard” awesomeness), but what happened to the personal style every class had? Why Agent, for example, have not exploited Daddy issues and have not managed to at least seed some doubt in Arcann's mind?

It is jarring for me – it is like Sorcerer or Consular forgetting that they have the Force and fighting with Bounty Hunter armor and weapons. Will they even know how to use all that gear? Will they even know what the trigger is?
And do not get me started on ALL Outlanders being the one and the only possible candidate to lead the Alliance.

Whats next? Trooper discovering that they are an expert on Ancient Sith history? Jedi Knight deciding to become a mercenary? Bounty Hunter learning Jedi shielding techniques? Warrior picking up a sniper rifle? Agent... well give that one an hour and you will think that they are a Knight of Zakuul. Give them two and you will think they are Thexan . But you get an idea, I hope.

P.S. If anyone got this far, thank you. If anyone understood something - have a cookie .

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Asmodesu
03.09.2018 , 03:44 AM | #2239
Quote: Originally Posted by RandomName_Ru View Post
Late to the party, wall of text incoming.
-snip- But you get an idea, I hope.

P.S. If anyone got this far, thank you. If anyone understood something - have a cookie .
yup, thanks for the reply! good read . people will never agree/interpret things the same way in the story, that's why I ask with no wish to argue it, just to listen to another point of view
A lot of the chapters also didn't make sense for all classes but I understood they needed bits for both types of classes. My smuggler ended her story as independent ruler of the underworld and pirate queen so leadership wasn't an issue and the creds she could get from the Alliance she enjoyed. To be honest I didn't nit pick every second with anything except my sith warrior, maybe why I could enjoy the other classes too, aside from BH that one I think would be out of place for me, if any class is.
Makeb didn't have much class specific either, pretty sad to be honest, but SoR I loooved, I miss the way they wrote that part.
*takes off with cookie*

The special weapon from ch 12 was to be viewed as a solely story only meaning, not gameplay. So with me being a huge story player I used that weapon on every character as they go through the story content and replace it for anything not story-line. Because if bad for gameplay, it had a deep meaning for the story. Poor Arcann gets stung a bit with it (story), and I completely ignore the gameplay only mechanic of the shield, that was simply boss fight mechanics.
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Asmodesu
03.09.2018 , 03:51 AM | #2240
My Agent is up to Makeb <3 watch out, Arcann!
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