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Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

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Arcann romance appreciation thread! Haters keep out please!❤

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MrJunay
02.12.2018 , 05:36 AM | #791
Quote: Originally Posted by JakRoanin View Post
Apparently being an Arcann fan means you never believe Arcann is guilty of any crime! of course he's guilty of mass murder and War Crimes. The point is he can be redeemed! Why don't others give us some credit for intelligence.
Why is that? I believe. And I am deeply concerned about this. But my characters ...
Smuggler - "Mafia Princess", selling spice, weapons and artifacts, is very far from such trifles as sympathy for some victims there.
The Jedi believe in redemption and are ready to forgive Arсann all the sins.
Sith warrior fully approves of his cruel methods. He himself would have bombed several planets, but no one allowed him. Now they are with Arcann, like brothers.

Hell, Аrcann is the best antagonist (and best companion) in this game.
As for his crimes - he behaves like a normal Sith. It's strange that many players who play for the DS Sith, blame him for the usual Sith behavior.

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Cawyden
02.12.2018 , 05:47 AM | #792
Quote: Originally Posted by DuskIsNotAmused View Post
You can report your own post. I just noticed this. I won't, the poor moderators have enough work. Still in what circumstances would you need such a thing it's fun too think about.
So let's see - maybe if you feel tired of forum posting and need an out time? But you can't really stop responding so you try to get a ban to be forced to stay off the forums?

Or to try to punish yourself if you posted something against the rules. I mean you could just edit your post but ... or to test the forum moderators if they actually check what you are posting or just ban you for getting a report....

I really don't know but someone thought it might be useful obviously. Just wondering if someone really ever did that.

Quote: Originally Posted by DuskIsNotAmused View Post
I don't remember Acina reacting to this Am I forgetting something?
I remember that too - can't remember when she said that though. I will see if I can find it - there might be a video available where we can hear it again.

Quote: Originally Posted by Asmodesu View Post
I hope so but it doesn't look good so far. Theron is my favourite npc character by far, and I have him paired with my favourite character, my sith warrior lass. They fit together brilliantly, even now. I'd love a happier ending for her but it still fits her character story if she doesn't get one. Only like a couple of the game's romance arcs, and hoping Arcann's can join my very exclusive list lol.
Siths deserve happiness too! Doesn't sound fitting I know but still...

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Cawyden
02.12.2018 , 05:57 AM | #793
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJunay View Post
Why is that? I believe. And I am deeply concerned about this. But my characters ...
Smuggler - "Mafia Princess", selling spice, weapons and artifacts, is very far from such trifles as sympathy for some victims there.
The Jedi believe in redemption and are ready to forgive Arсann all the sins.
Sith warrior fully approves of his cruel methods. He himself would have bombed several planets, but no one allowed him. Now they are with Arcann, like brothers.

Hell, Аrcann is the best antagonist (and best companion) in this game.
As for his crimes - he behaves like a normal Sith. It's strange that many players who play for the DS Sith, blame him for the usual Sith behavior.
That is what I think too - sure we don't see Darth Marr blow up 5 planets or any other Sith. But who says they wouldn't if this would fit their agenda? To save the empire or themselves? I totally think they would.

And it is ok - we are talking about fictional characters here. I think Darth Marr, Darth Vader and Darth Sidious are awesome - doesn't mean I like what they are doing.

But the discussion about "this character is better than that character" or "he/she only killed hundreds or thousands" is the wrong discussion - no player should have to justify him/herself for liking or hating a character. It is ok - both of it. We can discuss reasons for liking/hating a character but again, that doesn't mean it is right or false to like/hate a character. This is just personal taste and opinion. And it doesn't matter how many people died - murder is not ok in my opinion no matter how many people died.

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Eshvara
02.12.2018 , 06:01 AM | #794
Quote: Originally Posted by DuskIsNotAmused View Post
You can report your own post. I just noticed this. I won't, the poor moderators have enough work. Still in what circumstances would you need such a thing it's fun too think about.

I think most of the characters introduced/reintroduced in the expansions got redesigned, plot heavy ones anyway. The graphics have improved since ship, perhaps it shows more in designs that haven't had to stick with base game mesh/textures?
Giving models upgraded textures is one thing, but removing key features with a story behind them is another. He suffered during war, lost an arm, burned his face! It's key to his appearance imo.
And I've reported my own post before, it's an easy way to get a post you made removed or a thread! Though I only did it once.
#Arcannite
For The Empire

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DuskIsNotAmused
02.12.2018 , 06:16 AM | #795
Quote: Originally Posted by Cawyden View Post
So let's see - maybe if you feel tired of forum posting and need an out time? But you can't really stop responding so you try to get a ban to be forced to stay off the forums?

Or to try to punish yourself if you posted something against the rules. I mean you could just edit your post but ... or to test the forum moderators if they actually check what you are posting or just ban you for getting a report....

I really don't know but someone thought it might be useful obviously. Just wondering if someone really ever did that.



I remember that too - can't remember when she said that though. I will see if I can find it - there might be a video available where we can hear it again.



Siths deserve happiness too! Doesn't sound fitting I know but still...
I like everything about this post
I expect someone has by accident (Sounds like something I would do) -Shakes fist- cursed Button, I meant edit, Edit.

Thank you I would appreciate it if you could find it, but don't put yourself out on my account.

Siths do deserve happiness too, and this has nothing to do with my characters/faves often being them

Quote: Originally Posted by Cawyden View Post
But the discussion about "this character is better than that character" or "he/she only killed hundreds or thousands" is the wrong discussion - no player should have to justify him/herself for liking or hating a character. It is ok - both of it. We can discuss reasons for liking/hating a character but again, that doesn't mean it is right or false to like/hate a character. This is just personal taste and opinion. And it doesn't matter how many people died - murder is not ok in my opinion no matter how many people died.
Your on a roll today This^

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DuskIsNotAmused
02.12.2018 , 06:27 AM | #796
Quote: Originally Posted by Eshvara View Post
Giving models upgraded textures is one thing, but removing key features with a story behind them is another. He suffered during war, lost an arm, burned his face! It's key to his appearance imo.
And I've reported my own post before, it's an easy way to get a post you made removed or a thread! Though I only did it once.
Oh no I absolutely agree! wouldn't change a thing. I was talking about the Acina updated design comment I adore everything about Arcann's design; the storytelling, the connection to his family and culture . As a long time lover of Anakin/Vader I have no difficulty with robotic anatomy of any sort .

-Cackles- Eshvara your trouble, the best kind
Edit:
Kark, double post again

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MrJunay
02.12.2018 , 06:35 AM | #797
Quote: Originally Posted by Cawyden View Post
That is what I think too - sure we don't see Darth Marr blow up 5 planets or any other Sith. But who says they wouldn't if this would fit their agenda? To save the empire or themselves? I totally think they would.

And it is ok - we are talking about fictional characters here. I think Darth Marr, Darth Vader and Darth Sidious are awesome - doesn't mean I like what they are doing.

But the discussion about "this character is better than that character" or "he/she only killed hundreds or thousands" is the wrong discussion - no player should have to justify him/herself for liking or hating a character. It is ok - both of it. We can discuss reasons for liking/hating a character but again, that doesn't mean it is right or false to like/hate a character. This is just personal taste and opinion. And it doesn't matter how many people died - murder is not ok in my opinion no matter how many people died.
I think if Arсann was the Lord of the Sith and served the Empire, and bombed the five planets of the Republic, he was perceived quite differently. All players of the imperial side would be delighted and put it at the level of Darth Marr and Darth Malgus, and maybe even on the level of Revan.

The Valkorion's family falls out of the "Sith-Jedi" area, and so Arcann is not compared to the game characters (Darth Malak bombed Taris), but to the tyrants of our reality (Hitler). And the hatred for the tyrants RL is transferred to him.

But reality and game are completely different things. The developers themselves have shown that for Arcann there is a "redemption". So why do players persist that it's impossible?

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Eshvara
02.12.2018 , 06:37 AM | #798
Quote: Originally Posted by DuskIsNotAmused View Post
Oh no I absolutely agree! wouldn't change a thing. I was talking about the Acina updated design comment I adore everything about Arcann's design; the storytelling, the connection to his family and culture . As a long time lover of Anakin/Vader I have no difficulty with robotic anatomy of any sort .

-Cackles- Eshvara your trouble, the best kind
Edit:
Kark, double post again :rak_frown:
I agree!!, really love modifications. I'd have a cyborg body myself if I could. /nerd

lol!
Keeps the forums active. We don't mind.
#Arcannite
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DuskIsNotAmused
02.12.2018 , 06:57 AM | #799
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJunay View Post
The developers themselves have shown that for Arcann there is a "redemption". So why do players persist that it's impossible?
Because for them it is? They don't believe/want it? depends on the poster really. What baffles me is the need to control how other people feel. Not just how they act but how they feel (-Shudders- the whole concept gives me hives).

Quote: Originally Posted by Eshvara View Post
I agree!!, really love modifications. I'd have a cyborg body myself if I could. /nerd

lol!
Keeps the forums active. We don't mind.
Your all lovely. Also enablers but mostly lovely

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Paulsutherland
02.12.2018 , 07:03 AM | #800
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJunay View Post
But reality and game are completely different things. The developers themselves have shown that for Arcann there is a "redemption". So why do players persist that it's impossible?
I don't think they said it's impossible, just that it's ethically questionable, him being a mass murderer and all.