Leave murader alone buff other melee classes

Ok using acid strats is playing at the top level? Lol

I've run hardswaps since 8v8 ranked.. In 4s, matches are typically won around the 2-2.5 minute mark, if the game goes to acid (which is rare) we didn't execute the strategy correctly.

The exception being when teams with otherwise respectable players have run double tank/healer or 4 stealth comps into us as an act of capitulation and failed trolling, which has happened numerous times this season. Not that we've lost to it, it just draws things out.

You didn't deserve a reply to that but considering how much I hate real teams running "acid stratz" I felt compelled to.

This is an example of the misinformation that I'm speaking about. Merc dps are bottom tier in both pressure and hard swap set-ups. They are far too easy to shut down and their dps output is pathetic in a team composition environment. After the surge nerf & DCD nerfs Mercs were no longer a threat, except in solo ranked and that's not the format to balance around.

No one plays sniper + merc comps unless they are farming for mats. But you and the 3 sniper + merc healer guy should definitely form a team.

The thing is dueling is playing at the top level. The most skilled player doesnt have to carry anyone except themself and has nobody else to blame if they lose.

Lower levels are team based as it is more based on teamwork than individual skill.

You just pivoted from your random acid strats comment to this? 4 players operating as a synergized unit can execute strategies far beyond the predictable nature of 1v1 duels.

1v1s involve knowing your DCDs, knowing your opponents DCDs, knowing when to time your stuns, and depending on the format, cheesing LOS mechanics. Add in a bit of luck because TTK is so low where your crits fall and relics proc matter more.

These are a pre-req for group ranked, and the best teams do far more ontop of this.

Dueling requires skill, sure, just as boxing does. But there's a reason the most popular competitive sports are team-based. Football, baseball, soccer, hockey, basketball, etc. etc. offer far more strategic variety and possibilities than boxing because a high-performing team has far more capability than a single high-performing individual.

You seem to have a short memory. You were suggesting acid strats are a counter to snipers.

Teams are social, but fighting sports are generally 1v1. As that determines skill better and is top level for fighting (MMA, boxing,muay thai fights etc)

No, I didn't. Acid stratz aren't a counter to anything except developing as a player. They may prolong games but I haven't lost in seasons against double tank, double tank/double healer, 4 stealth minesweeper comps, etc.

Post whatever reading comprehension fail you want next. Beyond this point, I'm not wasting my time.

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I'm open to adjustments to snipers but I really don't see how the damage of the burst spec (marksman) is a problem. It's a ranged turret spec that parses like garbage - if you don't coordinate that admittedly top tier burst it will either not get kills quickly or not at all. It seems to me that the only sniper spec that is painfully good offensively is engineering (sometimes), as a sufficiently good engineering sniper can make playing any double melee comp that is not double marauder a suicide mission. Sink is the best example here - playing double melee into him feels almost pointless.

Snipers definitely have a counter: other snipers. That is awkward, I admit. Snipers are also vulnerable to set plays on them but this requires coordination most teams don't have or aren't trying for.

The important thing is that he found a way to feel superior to both parties.

None of that during the golden age of 8-man ranked, that's for sure. No meta then was adhered to the vast majority of the time, no sir.

Naah, everything must happen in a vacuum. On top of that, it's all or nothing, BW cannot make moderate changes, so obviously Marauder must be either as it is now or it must be made completely unplayable. [/sarcasm]