Leave murader alone buff other melee classes

What would you nerf? And why do you think Maras need nerfs before Sniper and Merc?

And have you considered that the meta would be improved instead by buffs to sorc dps and sins and nerfs to sniper/merc defensives?

Marauders may seem scary to someone playing the weakest class in the game right now, but they are comically shut down and **** on by sniper+merc comps, which are ludicrously overplayed.

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There is no case of before or after here.
They all need changes. Marauder is just the hot topic right now.

That doesn't mean I'm not just as supportive of changes to those other mentioned classes.
That is just a baseless and frankly rather weird assumption.

Why can we not change everything at the same time?

It's blatantly obvious that once Mercs and Snipers are out of the picture Marauder in its current stat would rise head and shoulders above the rest. We should tackle that before it becomes a problem. Not after.

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Some little comments about what I've read until now :

"20% damage reduction, usable while stunned".
This utility is why marauders don't have damage reduction while stunned. Because it give them one, you can choose when to enable it, which is even better even though it's 10% less than the more common ones. No need to nerf that, no need to buff it. It's a damage reduction that each melee class should have (most of them used to have it until it got removed for no damn reason)

Snipers and cover...
Imo while the cover mechanic do not bother me, there should be more way to force a sniper out of cover, while making an out of cover sniper less fragile. An improvement to shield probe could do the trick... This ability does need a rework for both Operative and Snipers imo, or at least make it more clear as to how much damage it can mitigate.


Ruthless Aggressor :
Imo the resist chance should go away, but be replaced by a 3% heal each time the obfuscated opponent miss an attack. Maybe increase by 1 or 2 seconds the duration of Obfuscate with that and it could be a pretty decent ability, while still being subject to counters (an ability should have a counter, always. RA doesn't have one and this is the issue).

CC-immunity :
I completely agree with Evolixe, marauders should light up or have a cool animation whenever they are under cc immunity.

Mercs do not need anymore nerfs :
Imo the 60% kolto overload shouldn't double the rate at which health is given back. The issue with that ability right now is that you can't bypass it unless you have a whole team hammering you. 60% without any "twice as fast heal" is pretty decent imo, and wouldn't make this ability too OP. Mercs are fine with the current trauma regulator and the reflect. The insta-60% however still need some work.



I think that's all I have to say. There could be more but I'm too tired to check it out.

I'm so happy there's another one of these threads to read while I'm at work tomorrow.

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Love it.

Moral of this entire thread? Nerf operative.

I cant believe its already 9 threads larger than it was a few hours ago. Same people too.

It shouldn't be a surprise that those who still play group ranked competitively have a vested interest in balancing classes within the context of a competitive team composition. There's a wealth of misinformation and bad ideas on this forum formed from myopic experiences, detached entirely from the context of players using their classes at the top level. There's an off chance that someone who matters might read this thread, so debates are had and ideas shared.

It's easy to sit back and not have thoughtful opinions around team balance when you play the game to sap cap randoms in civil war and stream meme 1v1 tournaments. You have no stake in competitive balance, because it doesn't affect you.

I think they call that #influencing?