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Guild Quality Of Life Changes

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Guild Quality Of Life Changes

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UlaVii
01.14.2018 , 05:19 AM | #1
I was going to post this as my SWTOR Christmas wishlist but once I started adding things the list just kept growing! It's been a few days since I thought of anymore things to add which means it's time to post it.

Producers; even if you don't do most of the items in the wishlist, please please fix the bugs listed in the "Broken Things" section. Guilds are not just non CM items in the game, they are large groups of your players and we need your help

Broken Things
  • Fix the guild panel selection bugs
  • Fix the guild panel so it stops stealing text focus from text inputs like the Chat panel, MoTD, Description, /f, /ignore, /who, Set Member Note, Set Officer Note...
  • Fix whispering from the guild panel right click menu. It currently replaces foreign characters with blocks. Same menu option works from WHO panel.
  • Fix the missing guild ship & stronghold problem
  • Fix the custom chat channel system or at the very least the permissions systems so the channel creator is remembered along with the officers
  • Fix the conquest panel so it updates at the reset time. Currently if you are logged in at the 18:00 GMT conquest reset time on Tuesdays then the conquest panel does not update and you continue to see the previous week. You have to log out and back again to see the new one.
  • Fix the paging buttons on the strongholds KEYS tab. They currently don't let you move forwards/backwards through the list without a bit of trickery.
  • Fix the KEYS panel so it is sorted by Name instead of the seemingly random order it's currently in. (same with BANS panel)
  • Fix guild strongholds that can be set to be visible on both factions. The button let us pick the cross faction "Share with Everyone" option but it doesn't actually show our strongholds on their public listings page. Tatooine guild stronghold is good example of this.
  • Fix Set Rank menu so there is a dot or star next to a characters current rank, it used to have this
  • Fix the Message Of the Day so it displays for people that load into the guild ship. The animation prevents it displaying.

General
  • Increase member cap to 10k+ or make it 1000 accounts with unlimited alts
  • Add "Invite To Guild" to chat right click menu so when we receive a /w asking to join the guild we don't have to do the stupid dance of starting to type /ginvite but then it switches to /g were you start typing "inv" so then you delete that and type /ginvite ...
  • Reduce group summons cooldown to 5 minutes.. It's currently 30 minutes.
  • Add Guild Announcement channel. This is a separate chat channel that is enabled by default and is only visible to members of your guild. It can be used by officers to write messages that are displayed in a highlighted fashion. Similar to /oa (ops announcement) when you have a assist in an ops group.
  • Let us do /roll in guild chat. Can be fun for mini prize giveaways etc or for picking from multiple people for the final spot in a group. This should be global so guild members on fleet can see /rolls of people in their DK stronghold etc.
  • Add the name of the person that did /ginvite to the message in guild chat so we know who did the invite similar to how it already does this with /gkick
  • Not just specific to guilds but please make the mail TO field, /WHO and /F use foreign character substitutions. So if I type Macky it will give show me Macky, Mcky, Mcky etc.
  • Let people turn off the guild ship intro animation in options
  • Give people a settings option to turn off the orange "XYZ Conquered by Guild ABC" text, could make it a text chat message they receive when they first load into an area
  • Let people turn off the "ABC's Stronghold" text using the Interface Editor. It takes a long time to vanish through moving around and sometimes it gets stuck.
  • Put a mark next to people on the WHO panel that have the invite permission so it's easy for outsiders to know who to /w for an invite
  • Hide the @ Server Name from the conquest scoreboard unless a guild currently has that as part of their guild name as per the server merge rules
  • Allow /dnd and /afk to persist across instance/location changes. Currently we have to set the messages each time which is annoying since UP arrow chat history is also lost.
  • Increase the number of ranks above 10
  • Let us create ops groups on the guild ship/stronghold without having to exit to fleet
  • Remove 30s delay for guild leaders and officers when sending mails to guild members. Currently there is a 20-30s delay between mails you can send to each other. This should be 0 for guild leaders and officers so we can send mails to our guild members. If some guild leaders abuse it then guild members will leave. currently this delay is a big factor when sending out 30 conquest prizes each week or top 6 winners in a photo contest etc.
  • Give guild leaders an "Everyone" option for mail so we can send mini in-game news letters to our guild members
  • Move the conquest week guild rewards to the Monday reset so they stop being broken with Tuesday patches/server restarts

Stronghold Panel
  • Enable the SHARE KEYS option on the KEYS panel for guild ships/strongholds so we can grant keys to non guild members.
  • Add a text filter to the KEYS panel so we can search for names instead of clicking through 50+ pages (same with BANS panel)
  • Add the public guild stronghold listings to the stronghold panel as a new button on the left. They would get visited a lot more by guests if they could view/travel from any location (can do the same with public personal strongholds)
  • Let people mark public guild/personal strongholds as their favorites so these can be displayed at the top of the list for that person.
  • This is a biggy: let us give gold keys for individual rooms on guild ships & strongholds

Guild Bank
  • Separate the guild bank options for Withdraw and Summons, add an extra tickbox for Summons so we can set 50k for each player that they can use as summons but not direct withdrawal as with current system
  • Allow us to set 899,910 as the maximum "Withdraws Per Week" with each bank vault (or 999,999 to make it look nicer). 899,910 is the 90 slots in a vault multiplied by 9999 . The current maximum we can enter is 9999 which was cool years ago before we could have item stacks of 9999. Now this low withdrawal limit is super restrictive when trying to move a lot of crafting materials around during crafting conquest weeks.
  • Make items auto stack in the guild bank. Easy example is how most raw materials do not stack. So you have 5000 Mythra in the bank vault and 500 in inventory. When you right click to add the 500 to the vault you end up with 2 stacks. You have to manually click, drag, click to make them stack. They do stack correctly with personal storage.
  • Hide bank vault tabs for ranks that have the View option disabled. It currently shows the left side tab button and click it shows empty vault with the "you don't have permission.." message. Just hide the tab button, it saves having to answer the same questions.
  • Disable moving items for vaults which people can add/view but not withdraw from. Currently people can jumble up the items in the bank vaults to be annoying.
  • Make the guild bank log cut-off point time based i.e. 2 weeks. Currently it cuts off based on the number of rows. It's one of the ways we identify guild thieves but because we have a lot of items going in/out our log only shows ~24 hours.
  • Let F2P and Preferred players have credit withdraw access so they can help with summons. The guild bank access perk they can buy only gives them access to items.

Guild Panel
  • Move the "Remove from Guild" option to its own submenu
  • Add a confirmation box to the "Remove from Guild" option. Icing on the cake would be settings page option to disable the confirmation box. Useful to have enabled for day-to-day work and then disable it when doing the weekly guild kicks to free up room.
  • Display a tool tip when people hover over the rank that shows the description guild leaders can add to ranks and increase length of rank description. This way people don't have to keep asking "What is this rank for?" "How do I get this rank?" etc
  • Add Set Member Note & Set Officer Note options with multiple guild characters selected to the right click menu with the other multi-select options
  • Double the character limit for the Message of the Day
  • Add a webpage option to the bottom of the guild panel. Clicking this will launch the website in our default browser.
  • Add a voice-coms option to the bottom of the guild panel. We can enter a Teamspeak or Discord (etc) link to our guild servers. Clicking this option would launch the chosen program.
  • Add name/legacy/note filter to guild panel
  • Add an extra tab to the guild panel that lists all guilds on that faction that have someone who can invite online, along with some stats and a description entered by the guild leader/officers. People can click a button to apply to a guild. Should be a "Do not list us" option for guilds.
  • Add another extra tab to the guild panel: "Bans". Let us ban people from our guilds. Currently we have to spot them from their legacy name and how they act. A lot claim to be somebody else, just with the same legacy since they are not unique anymore. The current system (or lack of one) puts all the pressure on those who can invite to spot persistent troublemakers trying to sneak back in.
  • Add 10% CXP bonus to guilds that matches the 10% bonus Reputation and Experience options seen at the bottom right of the guild panel

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Simpanx
01.14.2018 , 09:08 AM | #2
These are some really good points no matter the guild type and size! One thing I would like to add is:
  • A separate way for guild recruitment, as of now starter planets and General fleet are flooded with guild recruitment messages in chat.
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RagnarAugustus
01.14.2018 , 09:40 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Simpanx View Post
These are some really good points no matter the guild type and size! One thing I would like to add is:
  • A separate way for guild recruitment, as of now starter planets and General fleet are flooded with guild recruitment messages in chat.
Great list! I'd like to be able to add my alts to the guild at my current rank without needing an invite from a second person.

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RikuvonDrake
01.14.2018 , 10:09 AM | #4
In general, guilds are a great way to socialize and discover a positive and helpful community, in particular, if you are more of a solo/single player. Often, guild ran raids, flashpoints and uprisings are a great way for a new and/or inexperienced player to learn tactics and strategies in a more forgiving and patient environment, compared to let's say a random GF run where the chance a new player would just be kicked, ignored or harassed is much higher.

Another important part is that Bioware "just" need to ensure that guild leaders, officers and members simply have the tools needed to run a guild smoother, and those players and leaders will do the rest themselves, basically player-created additional value to the game through events, content and social raids/raid squads.

Personally, I think that in general MMO:s are really terrible at taking advantage of the passionate and creative player community, on steam, dota 2 and similar games have a workshop where the creative and talented artist can design sets and items that the owner/producer Valve can release into the game. I hope that Bioware and EA become better at using the similar resource, not limited to player created sets/items but also expand on the social/guild/group option to help us players help the game keep players.

Becoming a part of a guild or other social contexts have proved to be an important factor in ensuring that players stay in the game and in swtor, where much of the multiplayer content requires a subscribe, it is likely that it results in more subscribers.

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Drunken_Ewok
01.14.2018 , 11:53 AM | #5
Great list

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Khaleg
01.14.2018 , 12:24 PM | #6
Not sure if I might have overread this in your generally good list, but what I really miss as a guild leader is a notification, let's say via email, who has joined or left the guild, including Legacy name/etc.
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01.14.2018 , 02:26 PM | #7
great list
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DuchessKristania
01.14.2018 , 05:02 PM | #8
I'd also like to see them make the game a little more small/new guild friendly. I'm not asking for the same level of rewards as the guilds who make it on the leatherboards, but it's really a grind to unlock guild ships when you have a small guild. It would be nice if there was a guild goal in the conquest based on size brackets. It's next to impossible to get on the leatherboards if you're a small guild, it would be nice to have a chance to earn some sort of rewards if you meet a point number. During the crafting week my little guild worked their butts off and really pushed but there's just no way to compete with the numbers of a larger guild.
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RikuvonDrake
01.14.2018 , 09:00 PM | #9
Depends a lot on the week but they are expanding the conquest schedule to include more planets giving more guilds a chance, that said a guild of 10-12 active players can easily win conquest even over bigger guilds, in particular during crafting weeks. That said, if you are a small guild and want to get Top10 during Iokath Week, you need to work hard, your players already win the personal rewards, guild rewards are for guilds that make it into top 10, it's not supposed to be for every single guild (unless it's 5+ planets, then everyone does get it).

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DuchessKristania
01.15.2018 , 12:12 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by RikuvonDrake View Post
Depends a lot on the week but they are expanding the conquest schedule to include more planets giving more guilds a chance, that said a guild of 10-12 active players can easily win conquest even over bigger guilds, in particular during crafting weeks. That said, if you are a small guild and want to get Top10 during Iokath Week, you need to work hard, your players already win the personal rewards, guild rewards are for guilds that make it into top 10, it's not supposed to be for every single guild (unless it's 5+ planets, then everyone does get it).
We do work hard, but we're teeny. When I say teeny, I mean we are not even at 10 -12 active players. Let's take the leatherboards and conquest out of the equation, since that is merely one thing and I'm not trying to make a plea for getting something for nothing. It would be nice if there were other avenues to gain the currency needed to unlock the guild ship, avenues that are a little more small/new guild friendly. Yes we can craft, and we do. We've been crafting dark projects like crazy, but the mats can be tricky since we aren't really into pvp. It takes fifty encryptions to get one framework. That's a lot of dark projects for even the initial deck unlock, to say nothing of the additional rooms.

I'm actually the guild master of both the imp and pub divisions. We want to grow but as small as we are it's been a real battle to get things going so we can have a shot at conquest. It's kind of a chicken and the egg issue. People want to join a guild with all the trappings, but in order to get those trappings you need people. I'm not even sure what the best option for recruiting is. I've tried a few gen chat messages, but those are annoying for everyone and usually get ignored or trolled. Is there some resource for recruiting I just don't know about?
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