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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Tepes
12.30.2011 , 01:35 PM | #211
It's some what annoying to load in and see my group is full of level 25-35 and run into a group of level 45-50 players. While it happens more than I prefer, it's not the end of the world for me. I'll get there soon enough.
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Wbuller
12.30.2011 , 01:35 PM | #212
MaximusNem - yet another one telling u to learn to play. What does it take to make u understand that killing someone with 6-8k less hp, hitting him 2k harder EVERY SINGLE HIT, isn't about skill?
Because that is how it is with a lvl 40 normal dude meets a lvl 50 pvp geared dude

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Kryzen
12.30.2011 , 01:43 PM | #213
*i play on PvE server, so this is how i feel from that POV.. PvP servers may wish to ignore this post*

Level 50's are keeping it somewhat challenging for me. I am currently about to hit 36 and PvP is too easy with out the 50's. I actually have to work to kill them some times. I need to plan my positioning better and i cant be as trigger happy with my CC. Even with a a lot of 50's coming around now they mostly still suck. Im still coming out on top every scenario. Cant wait till i hit 50... But that's my opinion

On the other side of the fence. I do see the gear level 50's have access to as a huge disadvantage to us. Most of the ones i am fighting probably dont even have a full set of blue pvp gear. I saw one guy last night just chilling in town, i liked the way his armor looked so i inspected him. If he were to run into pvp he would be a god amongst men. He was 2 pieces shy of having his full armor set.

With Expertise stats (though have heard it doesn't work yet) in play... This game will go the same route as WAR (toughness) did... Gear > skill. I hope we can avoid that this time through.

In the end do we need a level 50 only bracket... probably. But not now. PvP is very much doable and i think people just need to rework your tactics to more then button smashing.

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MrRaptorJesus
12.30.2011 , 02:05 PM | #214
Quote: Originally Posted by Wbuller View Post
MaximusNem - yet another one telling u to learn to play. What does it take to make u understand that killing someone with 6-8k less hp, hitting him 2k harder EVERY SINGLE HIT, isn't about skill?
Because that is how it is with a lvl 40 normal dude meets a lvl 50 pvp geared dude

You clearly aren't referring to warzones then.

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Furyofwar
12.30.2011 , 02:09 PM | #215
Quote: Originally Posted by Silverspar View Post
Why? I don't need incentive to level, I am enjoying the game. Better yet, 50s should be set to level 1 stats that should give them incentive to slow down.
If you want the rewards of getting stronger Level. till then your weak. but its your own choice. If you want handouts go get welfare gear from wow. Star wars wants you to earn your **** again.

In every MMO you have to pay your dues some more then others.

WoW has spoiled these players rotten. With there welfare handouts. These players are so spoiled an lazy they now think they are entitled the same advantage as someone who spent more time on there character. If everyone was 100% the same it wouldn't be a RPG stupid.

Think about it. If you want a game where every single person does same damage and has the same health you should be play FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS. Not a RPG.

Seems like MMO community is beginning to get stupid from warcraft.

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Jaiyne
12.30.2011 , 02:11 PM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by Satans_Puppet View Post
Have to say I don't minde a challenge but the snotty nature of people in PvP is getting on my nerves now... yesterday I joined a WZ only to get a comment about "Great, more lower levels" and that level 45 whined ALL the way through and appeared to be doing nothing but complaining while the rest of us struggled on...
I have had this happen to me numerous times; the community seems absolute crap so far. Today a lovely player said, "you're XXXXXXXXX crap and useless." Things like that have made the game really unappealing, as the ONLY reason I subscribed to the game was to be able to PvP as I level.

Since non 50s are allowed in WZs, hate on Bioware, not the sub-50s maybe?

Not all of us live inside a damn MMO, so getting to 50 quickly isn't going to happen at least for many of us.

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Corechamber
12.30.2011 , 02:14 PM | #217
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusNem View Post
Thats all they need for brackets is 1-49 and 50 but as it sits now there isn't enough 50s for them to put it in. the queues would be freaking insane. I am a 21 BH and my last WZ i was top damage with 49 kills and 7 deaths. People need to stop whining and learn to play your class.


To say you got 49 kills means nothing. Its normal for every to get that many kills, if you damage someone you get credit. Plus how many 50's did you have on your team. People are not saying that they can not kill anyone, they are saying that they have failed in creating a system that will bring you on par with a level 50.
Its not so bad right now while you still have a good chance to only have 1 or 2 50s on a team. But in a month when a level 25 person is thrown in a game aginst a whole group of 50s thats going to suck. This will lead to your team blaming it on the low levels and trashing them for joining the match.
And understand its not about being just 50, it about armor you can obtain then. It only gets worse with time. We(or I) want a heathy pracitced pvp system. Not one that says stay out till 50.

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Furyofwar
12.30.2011 , 02:16 PM | #218
Quote: Originally Posted by Corechamber View Post
To say you got 49 kills means nothing. Its normal for every to get that many kills, if you damage someone you get credit. Plus how many 50's did you have on your team. People are not saying that they can not kill anyone, they are saying that they have failed in creating a system that will bring you on par with a level 50.
Its not so bad right now while you still have a good chance to only have 1 or 2 50s on a team. But in a month when a level 25 person is thrown in a game aginst a whole group of 50s thats going to suck. This will lead to your team blaming it on the low levels and trashing them for joining the match.
And understand its not about being just 50, it about armor you can obtain then. It only gets worse with time. We(or I) want a heathy pracitced pvp system. Not one that says stay out till 50.
Exactly. Doesn't freaking matter how long it takes you to get to 50. You EARN it. If you don't like it hit the road. Warcraft caters to babies.

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Furyofwar
12.30.2011 , 02:20 PM | #219
Quote: Originally Posted by Corechamber View Post
To say you got 49 kills means nothing. Its normal for every to get that many kills, if you damage someone you get credit. Plus how many 50's did you have on your team. People are not saying that they can not kill anyone, they are saying that they have failed in creating a system that will bring you on par with a level 50.
Its not so bad right now while you still have a good chance to only have 1 or 2 50s on a team. But in a month when a level 25 person is thrown in a game aginst a whole group of 50s thats going to suck. This will lead to your team blaming it on the low levels and trashing them for joining the match.
And understand its not about being just 50, it about armor you can obtain then. It only gets worse with time. We(or I) want a heathy pracitced pvp system. Not one that says stay out till 50.
Woah, who the **** said you would EVER EVER be on par with a level 50?
That same player would gank the crap out of you walking around questing in a PVP server.

You don't get it do you? You must be new to MMO's.

Bolster is to give you a fighting chance so you don't stand there and do 1 damage or less to a 50. It gives you damage and health of a level 50. That's all you get. If you want the rewards of character progression and growth and getting stronger I suggest you go earn it like everyone else. They will never ever ever let you become a level 50 get the same endgame perks and same rewards at level 10. So stop expecting it that's not the way any MMO works.

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Furyofwar
12.30.2011 , 02:25 PM | #220
Basically, what these kids want. Is everyone to have the same gear, same talents. When you level. It buffs your stats auto. You dont get to pick them. You have no character options other then "what you look like".

Also each time you level. You notice no difference. That would give some incentive to really grind out those extra pointless 40 levels. Mmmm nothing like spending a week grinding out some levels to be equal to a level 10 that just spent 3 hours getting through Korriban. Role playing game: From day one = spending countless hours slowing building your toon stronger an stronger till when you finally reach your max potential.