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Lord_Karsk
12.30.2011 , 01:12 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Sevvy View Post
Hi, Mr. Bad Player.
The only bad players i know of are the ones who have to play a op class to survive.

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DeltaThirteen
12.30.2011 , 01:14 PM | #172
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Awww poor baby!
Wonder how much that will cost him. Are there guides/tutorials/trainers/whatever out yet?

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Aragiel
12.30.2011 , 01:15 PM | #173
so i see - for many ppl getting bursted by one class in 3gcd and in single stun is the right idea ?
i bet you love wow rogues right .. common - check sometimes endsocre of warzones, and what are biggest hits.. average is 2-2,5k. Why should one class be able to do twice?

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Kyrandis
12.30.2011 , 01:16 PM | #174
So I made a video for you guys and some of your crazy claims.

You made find it here in this thread.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...998#post948998
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Reenolols
12.30.2011 , 01:16 PM | #175
Guys, operative needs toned down slightly, stop denying it, seriously. The good ops will still wreck face when they're nerfed. Jarring strike to 2s, 10% HS nerf, or 15% acid blade nerf, will make it a lot more balanced... just not all three.
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HeyImTempzz
12.30.2011 , 01:18 PM | #176
Dont know if anyone picked up on the fact that the guy is level 50, and "Didn't" have enough time to react to the guy killing his friend... lets stop posting here, it is clear that its more of a learn to play issue for this guy, over that class being Overpowered...


Enless he took a arrow to the knee, at the point the oprative opened then his reaction times have failed him in the PvP academy.

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RangKer
12.30.2011 , 01:18 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
The only bad players i know of are the ones who have to play a op class to survive.
How are they really OP? I read through all the pages and all I see is spectulations, nothing more, no facts, no proof, nothing. I have Tropper, BH and Sage and had little to no issues at all fighting against Scounderals or Operatives.

I feel that people are just blindly charging into a mass of players expecting to win with their "special unique snowflake hybrid spec" and got focused down by a single person cause their skill level and play style was actually better.

Until I see proof; hard facts, the only real solutionsis really L2P, sorry.
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Mursie
12.30.2011 , 01:18 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Aragiel View Post
so i see - for many ppl getting bursted by one class in 3gcd and in single stun is the right idea ?
i bet you love wow rogues right .. common - check sometimes endsocre of warzones, and what are biggest hits.. average is 2-2,5k. Why should one class be able to do twice?
2x the biggest hit of every other class? you are too conservative. try 3x to 4x the biggest hit.

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biowareftw
12.30.2011 , 01:22 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Aragiel View Post
so i see - for many ppl getting bursted by one class in 3gcd and in single stun is the right idea ?
i bet you love wow rogues right .. common - check sometimes endsocre of warzones, and what are biggest hits.. average is 2-2,5k. Why should one class be able to do twice?
Do you really want all us good sub rogues to roll sorc's? You won't like it. I could do 400 k dmg a game with the PVE spec (this was the BAD PVP SPEC) in beta. The class is a joke. It is a simplified shadow priest as madness or the simplicity of an arcane mage as lightning.

There are a few challenging classes in this game and all of them are melee. Try rolling a sentinel/marauder and pugging against all sorc/bh teams. Have fun with that! The rest of the classes are faceroll and the only hard thing about healing atm is the UI which will be made faceroll just like it was in WoW.

Scoundrels don't outdmg sorc/bh's commandos/sages when played at equal skill level. They do a tad LESS overall warzone dmg. They also can't shield their teamates, and if you offheal your dmg takes a MAJOR hit because you have to stay in range.

What two classes make up the majority of warzones? The ez mode ones. Remove their counter and the problem will get even larger.

This entire thread is a joke. I do LESS dmg on a scoundrel/op then a sage/sorc bh/commando and heal for less as well.

Am I making threads crying about that? Nope. Why? Because I have no desire to play a faceroll class. Go ahead and make a scoundrel/op and do more warzone damage then your sorc/bh. I dare you. When you don't? Come back here and say you were wrong.

Do I outdmg players in pugs? Yup. Why? Because they suck.
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Mursie
12.30.2011 , 01:25 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by biowareftw View Post
Do you really want all us good sub rogues to roll sorc's? You won't like it. I could do 400 k dmg a game with the PVE spec (this was the BAD PVP SPEC) in beta. The class is a joke. It is a simplified shadow priest as madness or the simplicity of an arcane mage as lightning.

There are a few challenging classes in this game and all of them are melee. Try rolling a sentinel/marauder and pugging against all sorc/bh teams. Have fun with that! The rest of the classes are faceroll and the only hard thing about healing atm is the UI which will be made faceroll just like it was in WoW.

Scoundrels don't outdmg sorc/bh's commandos/sages when played at equal skill level. They do a tad LESS overall warzone dmg. They also can't shield their teamates, and if you offheal your dmg takes a MAJOR hit because you have to stay in range.

What two classes make up the majority of warzones? The ez mode ones. Remove their counter and the problem will get even larger.

This entire thread is a joke. I do LESS dmg on a scoundrel/op then a sage/sorc bh/commando and heal for less as well.

Am I making threads crying about that? Nope. Why? Because I have no desire to play a faceroll class. Go ahead and make a scoundrel/op and do more warzone damage then your sorc/bh. I dare you. When you don't? Come back here and say you were wrong.

Do I outdmg players in pugs? Yup. Why? Because they suck.
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