Make Shroud of Memory Available for Everyone

I'll take a HK-48

I could buy a whole brand-new game for that with some DLC. Several games if I left AAA-space and went for good indie games instead, or even EA's older library.

I guess it's a good thing for you that you don't have to decide between buying those other games (and all the DLC that goes along with them) and purchasing the BONUS CHAPTER, then.

The fact remains that remains that everyone who got access to that BONUS CHAPTER had to pay the cost for 8 months subscription, or $120 at the monthly rate, and had to subscribe for the "correct" 8 months. No one had the choice to say "Let me just pay a small amount and get that chapter" or "Let me choose what months I want to subscribe and pay a little extra", etc.


Some people have indicated that chose to remain subscribed specifically for that BONUS CHAPTER. Without that BONUS CHAPTER incentive, they would have done exactly what many did and unsubscribe until all chapters had been released and then subscribe for one month to get access the remaining chapters.

You're missing the point. As you yourself said, in all caps, the chapter was a BONUS. You didn't pay $120 just for that chapter. You got eight months of subscription to the full game, other subscription rewards, and everything that went along with it. You didn't just pony up the $120 for the one chapter and companions alone.

Thus, telling someone they should pay $99 for the chapter because that's what they paid for it is simply incorrect. They paid for a subscription and got something extra at that time.

As I said, at this point I hope the writers just totally retcon Shroud of Memory and write HK-55 back in the main story. They did the same with Shae Vizla; she was in a chapter regardless if you had earned the companion version of Shae. Or else I hope they introduce a new HK droid. I'm sure some people will scream about that, but there's no leg to stand on there, because they're not getting access to your precious super special chapter nobody else ever gets to see.

How again, does one get that "bonus?"

One no longer does, because it's impossible to achieve the requirement. That is the only point with merit currently.

They aren't going to retcon the story and it would be pointless to do so. People can still get HK-55 by playing a chapter and leaving while he is the current companion. All influence gained (through story and gifts) is kept, so there is nothing to lose by doing this if you really want HK-55 so bad. HK-51 is also available.

There is nothing wrong with bringing future HKs into the game --- even another completely different (story) HK of the same model. It's not like there was only one HK-51 ... there was a ship full of them. We fought several HK-50 droids in KOTOR2. We don't know how many HK-55s there are.

I don't think there's one person here that cares about repaints. They just want BIoware to keep their word. They specifically asked players how they could use a reward system for subscribers and asked what kinds of rewards players would like to see. Decisions were made based on feedback and rewards were created and given out. Unfortunately, now we see so many tear-filled hard-luck stories that it looks like there won't be anymore "loyalty rewards" in the future to look forward to. Good job, guys.

I did decide. $100 for the bonus chapter is most definitely a no-go, 0/10 would not buy. The VALUE PROPOSITION of 30 minutes of content for $100 is pretty bad. $5 is a little more interesting. If it were sold with no requirement of an active Internet connection, it might even be worth $10, because that is, realistically, what that little bit of content is worth on the sale rack after everyone's seen it on Youtube.

The VALUE PROPOSITION of $120 for all the exclusive sub rewards in a given year is... slightly more interesting. To some people, achievement hunters mostly. It's a lot better than....

The VALUE PROPOSITION of $120 for a 30-minute bit of content that hasn't even been made, never mind reviewed is so bad I have to question the sanity of anyone who actually buys it at that price. Or: how to be a savvy consumer and not buy something that might just turn out to be bad (which EA has been known to do to its games because they chase market trends with little mind to game development). Which it wasn't, which is why this topic keeps showing up. Not many of the locals will question the sanity of anyone who buys the promise of a 30-minute bit of content of unknown value at that price, something something survivorship bias and why they're still locals.

... because you know what's in last year's sub bonuses and can make a much better educated choice on how valuable the stuff in them is, rather than just buying on faith. It's also incomplete because early access for already-released content requires a working time machine, which I'm pretty sure BW doesn't have.
And anyone who buys old sub rewards now, by definition, won't be able to enjoy it as long as the subs from years ago because the game has that many years of life already spent. And it doesn't let you touch all the world drops you might have wanted for cosmetic purposes that were in the game when that stuff was a sub reward but isn't any more, so 66% of a year's worth of sub is still high for (mostly) trinkets that are rarely used any more. $30 would be more interesting, and very much in line with the economic realities of why things get put in the bargain bin when they're not new and shiny any more, and the reality that it doesn't include the $180 of game time that went with them.

A game like this should always have content which is exclusive, available for a certain time etc. Its what should motivate people to keep subbed, its one of the ways. Its good as it is.

Also, the way I know Bioware, with enough complaining you will get it, so keep at it!

Except that they're giving out rewards this month.

Frankly I want them to retcon the chapter because I'm sick of hearing people go on about it, on both sides. Yeah, we get it, Super Special Subscribers!! think the players who want SoM are entitled whiners; the players who want SoM think the same of the S3s. Stalemate. We're never going to get Shroud of Memory - fine. So write around it, and watch people howl about it.

ESCing out of a chapter with HK-55 effectively stops the story cold and means that no other chapters of KOTFE or KOTET can be replayed. Not to mention that he's still dead in the action of the story, so it's pointless. It's not about the physical companion, IMHO. We have about 40 of those available now. It's about the character in the story.

And actually, I think there are enough people here who seem to claim exclusive ownership of HK-55 that if they were to write in another HK-55, there *would* be screaming. People would claim BW was going back on their word, and that HK-55 is THEIRS AND THEIRS ONLY FOREVER BECAUSE BONUS!!!! CHAPTER!!! I'd take bets on that.

Don't you get HK-55 back before hand when he's shooting up the lab? If I recall you only had to be subscribed for one of the ten months to get that?

Chapter wise, just release the damn thing but remove whatever the droid companion is called from the mission reward. Let those who qualified for the bonus before hand be the only ones who qualify to claim her/it.