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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Level 50's are Killing pvp

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Wbuller
12.30.2011 , 08:03 AM | #181
Teamplay is a part of it? Indeed it is. Noone says otherwise.
But with 4, even just two pvp geared lvl 50's, how does low lvl's performing excellent teamplay work? Honostly?
Teamplay doesn't make them immortal. Pvp geared lvl 50's can still just run over them. And can still just run through the fire in hutball etc etc. How does teamplay work when a pvp geared lvl 50 can 3 - even 2 shot one?
And plz notice, I'm not talking about just a loner lvl 50 in a wz, cause sure, if that is the case, u can team up and take him down. Not easiely, but u can.

But yes, if complaining about fighting vs premades of 50's with pvp gear and 50-75% more hp than me, single hitting 2-3k harder than me (i'm 42) then yes, I am whining.
I like to pvp. I like having a good time pvp'ing. Getting crushed so easily be a team of high lvl pvp'ers ruin the pvp fun.

And don't give me some lame reply like go lvl or stop pvp'ing

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ZombieMeerkat
12.30.2011 , 08:18 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Wbuller View Post
Teamplay is a part of it? Indeed it is. Noone says otherwise.
But with 4, even just two pvp geared lvl 50's, how does low lvl's performing excellent teamplay work? Honostly?
Teamplay doesn't make them immortal. Pvp geared lvl 50's can still just run over them. And can still just run through the fire in hutball etc etc. How does teamplay work when a pvp geared lvl 50 can 3 - even 2 shot one?
And plz notice, I'm not talking about just a loner lvl 50 in a wz, cause sure, if that is the case, u can team up and take him down. Not easiely, but u can.

But yes, if complaining about fighting vs premades of 50's with pvp gear and 50-75% more hp than me, single hitting 2-3k harder than me (i'm 42) then yes, I am whining.
I like to pvp. I like having a good time pvp'ing. Getting crushed so easily be a team of high lvl pvp'ers ruin the pvp fun.

And don't give me some lame reply like go lvl or stop pvp'ing
In Huttball, knock the carriers off the ledges and force them to pass to a lower level player or if they refuse, keep whittling them down to dead.

In Turrets, train them away from the turret (they'll chase, they ALWAYS do), have a teammate grab the turret. Then keep interrupting when they try to take it back.

In whatever that other one is called, see turrets.

It's been done several times. It's not impossible.

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Greensiberia
12.30.2011 , 08:19 AM | #183
PVP only for 1% ppl who have 50 lvl character

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Wbuller
12.30.2011 , 09:28 AM | #184
Well, in that case my cover pulse is bugged or can be resisted. Because 50%+ of the times I use on lvl 50 it doesn't work.
Sure I can make someone chase me, and maybe even make him follow me long enough so that someone have time to cap turret - and that is presuming he doesn't leave a m8/ m8's at turret. And most ppl prefer to kill enemies at turret before trying to cap it. Cause ofc ppl do everything to interrupt ppl busy capping

But it isn't just so easy as u try to make it sound. Possible? Probably. But yet, I haven't been in a wz where we were able to beat premade with 4 lvl 50 pvp geared - even tho I know tacs and what to do like u say.
High lvl guildies doing premades and fully pvp geared aren't stupid, u know?

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ZombieMeerkat
12.30.2011 , 09:48 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Wbuller View Post
Well, in that case my cover pulse is bugged or can be resisted. Because 50%+ of the times I use on lvl 50 it doesn't work.
Sure I can make someone chase me, and maybe even make him follow me long enough so that someone have time to cap turret - and that is presuming he doesn't leave a m8/ m8's at turret. And most ppl prefer to kill enemies at turret before trying to cap it. Cause ofc ppl do everything to interrupt ppl busy capping

But it isn't just so easy as u try to make it sound. Possible? Probably. But yet, I haven't been in a wz where we were able to beat premade with 4 lvl 50 pvp geared - even tho I know tacs and what to do like u say.
High lvl guildies doing premades and fully pvp geared aren't stupid, u know?
It's not supposed to be easy and it isn't. The whole point of the WZs is to complete a set objective by working as a team. Most of the QQing on this forum is because someone wants an "easy mode".

Premades are going to be tough whether they're 50 or not. Premades are premades. They do have an advantage and rightfully so. However, there's nothing keeping you from joining or creating a premade of your own.

I don't have the link, but there's a video somewhere of a mid-level premade just rocking the WZs. No complaints about gear, no complaints about level 50s, just straight up working together to beat the odds.

Easy? No. Possible? Oh hell yes.

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Wbuller
12.30.2011 , 11:43 AM | #186
Lol, I find ur reply quite funny. Talking about it's not supposed to be easy n stuff. And indeedm ur pretty damn right it's not - not easy for low lvl's vs pvp geared 50's.
But wait, how about the 50 pvp'ers? As hard as it is for low lvl's vs those, so damn much easier is it for them.

U honestly think I'm QQ'ing because I want an 'easy mode'? Plz read my posts again then.

(plz notice the keyword in my posts - 50 PVP'ERS. Those with the 50-75% hp advantage, with the 3k higher hit than ur highest hit advantage and those who can 2-3 shot one, - not fresh lvl 50's with average gear and hp's just like u)

And yes, ofc premades have an advantage. And of course should dedicated players have such an advantage - anyone can have that. I find nothing wrong with that.
But what u basicly are saying are that it is alright to give them a double advantage - an 'easy mode' one might say

As to ur video, I'm sure ur right. And that's cool. But as i might have noticed in my previous post, I 'QQ' about the huge advantege high lvl pvp geared ppl get.
I bet their odds would have been pretty damn different if they were up against 19k hp juggernaughts, 18k operatives etc etc. Ppl who -despite how well they work together - could 3 shot them.

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sithra
12.30.2011 , 11:48 AM | #187
bump for justice... 50's are absolutely ruining pvp right now for most of the player base.

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Furyofwar
12.30.2011 , 11:48 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by MandoArc View Post
Level 45-50 need there own bracket

All we need is 1 BRACKET

i say one cuz more then one will make it hard for us under 50 to have some fun

So a level 45-50 bracket will be cool and it wont slow down the queo for thos level 50 cuz they will still be able to quoe whit some level's 45 put a list we wont have to deal whit Premade of level 45and50 team's again level 20 and 30's it make pvp more about who have more level 50 then about skill's


SORRY FOR MY SPELLING I hope you can understand

So plz level 45-50 bracket fast level 45 and up need there own little bracket so it take skill
Or you can start leveling?

No one is stopping you from attaining level 50.
Stop queuing and pay your dues. Every MMO has a right of passage. Its like becoming a man. That right of passage is called leveling. Get to it.

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Eradicatelol
12.30.2011 , 11:58 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by sithra View Post
bump for justice... 50's are absolutely ruining pvp right now for most of the player base.
^^^^^^^^

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Wbuller
12.30.2011 , 11:58 AM | #190
What if ppl enjoy pvp more than lvl'ing? U rather prevent ppl from doing something they enjoy instead of balancing the pvp just a tiny bit?

If i didn't know better, wait I don't, I'd say you are one of those who prefer ganking low lvl's instead of actually facing a little challenge?