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Rolling need on boss loot for companions


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PlagaNerezza
12.30.2011 , 11:35 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Geogian View Post
You know what? I like getting gear for my companion through flashpoints. But I'm going to make sure no one else needs it, and am going to ask. And I won't sell it unless I made a mistake. I'm going to gear through flashpoints when possible, but not be a dick about it.
I don't mind, but you do realize that is credits others who win the roll could use. Some of those items are re-sellable for descent credits on the GTN. So while we don't "need" the item I do "NEED" the credits and therefore you are asking us to forgo that money so you don't have to pay or take up easy crafting skills to update your companion.

So you are asking for us to subsidize your companion.

I understand why even when asking people are not thrilled about it. Cybertech and buy a set of armor for the companion. You are way better off anyways. That way you can be max stat blue for your level any point in time if you bother to take the few minutes to craft.
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Rottin
12.30.2011 , 11:37 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Geogian View Post
You know what? I like getting gear for my companion through flashpoints. But I'm going to make sure no one else needs it, and am going to ask. And I won't sell it unless I made a mistake. I'm going to gear through flashpoints when possible, but not be a dick about it.
I agree completely.

Just because I can't personaly equip it on my toon doesnt mean that I will not use it. I use my compaionon and so I use his/her gear.

Its very easy to get credits in this game, just because someone wants a chance at a easy 2k credits is not enough reason for me to never roll on gear in a flashpoint for a compaionon that may not be present, just ask first.

If people in your pickup group object... then thats another matter.
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HolyDestitute
12.30.2011 , 11:45 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by PlagaNerezza View Post
I don't mind, but you do realize that is credits others who win the roll could use. Some of those items are re-sellable for descent credits on the GTN. So while we don't "need" the item I do "NEED" the credits and therefore you are asking us to forgo that money so you don't have to pay or take up easy crafting skills to update your companion.

So you are asking for us to subsidize your companion.

I understand why even when asking people are not thrilled about it. Cybertech and buy a set of armor for the companion. You are way better off anyways. That way you can be max stat blue for your level any point in time if you bother to take the few minutes to craft.


You're clueless and missing the point.

While YOU may need the credits, it is considered a gear piece first which is intended to be used.

Any usability of that item trumps your need for credits. Regardless if it is for a companion, DPS/TANK set, alt, or just rolling for mods. There are many different dynamics to this game with the advent of companions. I said earlier, companions are more important to some AC's then others. Who are you to determine what item should be sold for credits?

Furthermore, am I supposed to subsidize my leveling capability so you can have an opportunity to roll on an item just to sell it?

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HogtownDaddy
12.30.2011 , 11:47 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by HolyDestitute View Post
You're clueless and missing the point.

While YOU may need the credits, it is considered a gear piece first which is intended to be used.

Any usability of that item trumps your need for credits. Regardless if it is for a companion, DPS/TANK set, alt, or just rolling for mods. There are many different dynamics to this game with the advent of companions. I said earlier, companions are more important to some AC's then others. Who are you to determine what item should be sold for credits?
Give me one AC where a companion is not needed. And if you are a tank and you aren't using your healer companion then you obviously don't know squat about how to play.

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HolyDestitute
12.30.2011 , 11:48 AM | #15
Mercenary.

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Thekk
12.30.2011 , 11:48 AM | #16
You have every right to roll need for your companion. They are an extension of your character, so you need to gear them also. There are no rules against this, or the game would not allow you to roll on gear for your companion.

This is the same as wanting to roll on off spec items in WoW. Folks argued over this for years, with still no solution. Try telling your Tank or Healer what they can and can't do there .

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OT_Sithlord
12.30.2011 , 11:49 AM | #17
The problem here, is that I bet you "ask" to need items, after everyone has already clicked greed for that item.
They would have rolled for their companions too, but they were doing the polite thing.
What you are doing is being greedy, and will result in every pug needing everything.
Even the piece you actually need for your main..

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HogtownDaddy
12.30.2011 , 11:49 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by HolyDestitute View Post
Mercenary.
Why would a Merc not need a companion?

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Saberolson
12.30.2011 , 11:58 AM | #19
How bout people rolling on moddable items they can wear, even though all the mods, and they style of the item is for my class, not theirs? *** does a jedi want smuggler pants??

Like all those mods are cheap or something. I had a damn jedi, who sucked btw, roll need on smuggler pants in FP and won. When i asked ***? He said, oh its cool man, im going to take all the mods out, and buy new ones. WHAT?? I guess he didnt realize its the DAMN MODS that make the item valuable. Not the item. It was a huge upgrade for me. And if you keep your crafting up at all, its not like you have any damn money to go buy top tier mods anyway(unless you sliced prenerf, not sure how it is now)

Anyway, group looting can be a nightmare in this game is you dont have good people with you. Hell I pass on things that are only small upgrades if the other person getting will get a large upgrade. I never roll need for companion gear, cause like you said, everyone has companions. Thats what greed is for. Even if everyone rolls greed, i still greed. If I get it, great, if not, so what. There is gear all over the place for my companion. I'm the one who needs the good stuff, hes fine with hand me downs.

And this reason is why I think we should get loot rewards for the FP quests. I have the worst drop luck sometimes in these things and get nothing but a commendation out of them often. Why we get awesome items for heroics, but nothing from a FP is beyond me. Maybe the later FP quests give something, i sure hope so.

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PhoenixMatrix
12.30.2011 , 12:10 PM | #20
Here's a newsflash: not everyone come from the same MMOs, and looting "ethics" differ widely from one MMO to another. People who started MMO-ing on EQ, WoW, and WoW-clones probably outnumbers the rest, and they are amazingly vocal, so they make it seem like their way is the only way, but its not, and even some pretty recent and popular MMOs have had different "standard ethic", so you can't expect everyone to think like you.

Here's the trick! And it works wonder!

When you make a group, or join one, state clearly what you think the "rules" should be and see if everyone agrees (usually everyone will agree to whatever the first person who states the rules say, no matter what it is)

TADAH! Problem solved.

Geez that was hard! Instead of assuming your way is the only way and that everyone else is a moron for not thinking WoW or EQ were the holy grails of MMO communities.