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Are people prepared to possibly lose decorations when the servers merge?

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Are people prepared to possibly lose decorations when the servers merge?

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CloudCastle
10.05.2017 , 04:44 PM | #11
They way they are doing it doesn't make sense for anyone who actually bought decos and decorated on multiple servers.

Even though I didn't pay any extra for decorations, I am now looking two decorated strongholds from other servers that will get added to my line-up...but I'll be over my allotted decos, so I'll never be able to remove or redocorate those SH's again without losing every item in them. That stinks.

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jacquelee
10.05.2017 , 05:07 PM | #12
As far as I understood it, for now the solution is not to pick decorations up, either before or after the merge. That seems to be the only way to keep all the decorations from different legacies.

As per what it says on the blog post:

Quote:
Ex: On the “Skywalker” Legacy you have 4 Basic Metal Chairs, on the Organa Legacy you have 15 Basic Metal Chairs. After the update, you will have a combined Legacy with 15 Basic Metal Chairs. It is possible that you may end up with more decorations placed than you own after the update. If this happens, you cannot place any more of that decoration until you go below your owned value.
Meaning, the person with five GTN kiosks on five servers better be completely fine with where those kiosks are placed right now because their owned amount is now one and they only still have the other four because they had been placed during the merge.

Picking one up will make it disappear, simple as that, because as far as the new legacy is concerned, it never existed.

Going back to bioware's example, the person with those legacies has 19 chairs placed, but after the merger they only own 15, so picking one of the 19 up will mean it can never be placed again, because the now owned 15 are still already placed. Meaning that chair seizes to exist.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that is how I understood it.

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Ratajack
10.05.2017 , 05:24 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by jacquelee View Post
As far as I understood it, for now the solution is not to pick decorations up, either before or after the merge. That seems to be the only way to keep all the decorations from different legacies.

As per what it says on the blog post:



Meaning, the person with five GTN kiosks on five servers better be completely fine with where those kiosks are placed right now because their owned amount is now one and they only still have the other four because they had been placed during the merge.

Picking one up will make it disappear, simple as that, because as far as the new legacy is concerned, it never existed.

Going back to bioware's example, the person with those legacies has 19 chairs placed, but after the merger they only own 15, so picking one of the 19 up will mean it can never be placed again, because the now owned 15 are still already placed. Meaning that chair seizes to exist.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that is how I understood it.
That is how I understand it as well.

I have to believe this was just an "oversight" by BW and they did not think through all the potential problems associated with strongholds and decorations and the ramifications that merging multiple legacies would have on players' decorations.


I just cannot fathom why BW is willing to cause players to lose decorations they legitimately obtained, including some that likely required real money expenditures.

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HuaRya
10.05.2017 , 05:53 PM | #14
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So true. Decos are attached to your legacy and if you move around they pick up any you may have added like a sponge.

Example: You move from EH to Shadowlands, now SL has all the decos from both servers.

Now if you are talking about the possibility that you may have to redecorate I can't relate because I often deactivate and reactivate just to start fresh because I usually have five times the decos I started out with in 2013 when strongholds like Tat were new.

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Sarova
10.05.2017 , 05:54 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
That is how I understand it as well.

I have to believe this was just an "oversight" by BW and they did not think through all the potential problems associated with strongholds and decorations and the ramifications that merging multiple legacies would have on players' decorations.


I just cannot fathom why BW is willing to cause players to lose decorations they legitimately obtained, including some that likely required real money expenditures.
I saw it the same way and I am not prepared to lose decorations that I spent real money buying. Keith or Eric or someone from the staff needs to make a post about how they intend to protect our paid-or-with-cartel-coins decorations. Not all of us have strongholds full of chairs BW.
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Murder_Toys
10.05.2017 , 05:56 PM | #16
defo need a official answer on this but i guess people like myself that peacock my sh i could just get my DK stronghold around 500k score and unlock em on each server deco them fully and 3 DK then the merge happens
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Ratajack
10.05.2017 , 06:05 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by HuaRya View Post
So true. Decos are attached to your legacy and if you move around they pick up any you may have added like a sponge.

Example: You move from EH to Shadowlands, now SL has all the decos from both servers.

Now if you are talking about the possibility that you may have to redecorate I can't relate because I often deactivate and reactivate just to start fresh because I usually have five times the decos I started out with in 2013 when strongholds like Tat were new.
Wrong. If you move from EH to Shadowlands now, your number of decorations on Shadowlands will be the higher number of decorations between the two servers. For example, if you have 10 basic chairs on EH and 2 basic chairs on Shadowlands, you will have 10 basic chairs on Shadowlands after the transfer, NOT 12. If you have 20 basic bunks on Shadowlands and 5 on EH, then you will have 20 basic bunks on Shadowlands after the transfer, NOT 25.

Decorations are NOT "additive" when changing servers. If they were, players could just transfer back and forth, increasing their decoration totals, including those rare, expensive ones, with each transfer. Until now, that has not been an issue as the decorations that were on the "origin server" remained on the origin server and thus were not "lost".

When the merge happens, there will be no "origin server" left on which the decorations can "remain", though.

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AbsolutGrndZero
10.05.2017 , 07:00 PM | #18
Yeah, in the case of decorations they need to combine your totals (up to the maximum for that item) because otherwise anyone who paid CC for decorations is going to have wasted money.
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schruby
10.05.2017 , 07:51 PM | #19
That's surprising seeing that if you transfer legacy decoration get added together.
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Ratajack
10.05.2017 , 08:23 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by schruby View Post
That's surprising seeing that if you transfer legacy decoration get added together.
I've transferred quite a few characters over the years and decorations have never been "added together" for me.

If they were "added together", someone could purchase a single high ticket item, then transfer a character back and forth a few times and end up with dozens of that item.

Example:

Johnny purchases a single luxury spa decoration for 50 million credits. He transfers a character to another server, giving him a luxury spa on each server. Then he transfers a character back, giving him 2 on the original server and one on the second server. The next transfer results in 2 on the original server and 3 on the second server. Another transfer back would yield 5 on the original server and 3 on the second server., and so on.

This is why decorations are not "additive".

As I noted earlier, this was never an issue previously, as the decorations remained on the "origin server" and, therefore, were not "lost".

Now, with the server merges, the origin server is going to disappear and when it does, there will be no "origin server" left on which the decorations can remain, leading to the potential loss of legitimately obtained decorations, some of which may have required a real money expenditure.