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defeat Vaylin's spirit.


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norwayma
07.15.2017 , 12:10 AM | #191
I finally got this done whit my gunslinger. It was just pure luck, I used the run around tactic and was desperatly looking for a healing circle when she stunned me right by the spawning place. I was so damn pissed, was sure I was dead and had her way down on health....suddenly things stopped and I got the cut scene! Obviously a healing circle had spawned and got her just in time.

My gear was only what I got from starting point as lvl 65 until this fight. So I had lousy gear, didnt do anything with my utility points either.

This is not a storyline i want to do again!! If I do I will be sure to go dark and get Lord dramath or whatever help me out.

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lenzius
09.10.2017 , 07:11 PM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by casirabit View Post
I also like being told this fight is impossible to do without having the dark side companion. I have done it 5 times, my sawbone healer , my operative, my sentinel, my shadow and my sorceress. All of them light side but my sorceress.
Yes it is hard but you need to pay attention to the mechanics and use your interrupt. When she goes to slam you then use interrupt.
Tthe slam is instant, and once it launches all my spells go inactive.
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WisTexOfficial
09.15.2017 , 07:06 AM | #193
Okay, I stopped playing the game for about 6 months because I could not get past this thing after about 50 tries. Then when I came back, I played other "end of game" content (mostly repeatable missions), purchased mods and slowly gathered better gear. After about 3 months, I decided I would try again. Read the forums once again. It had the same advice I tried before, but I decided, what the heck, I'd try it again.

Character: Level 70 Sniper, maxed out for DPS and long range attacks (my preferred way of fighting). All gear is over 200 (mostly level 65). Melee attacks are weak, almost no healing abilities other than the adrenal probe and by taking cover. Not the ideal character for this battle.

Attempt 1: Tried following most of the advice here about only attacking her within the purple range, running away when the red circle appears, etc. Tried to use cover to heal myself while she attacked. Kited her about half the time. Still died. I was still thinking like a Sniper.

Attempt 2: Decided to rethink everything, and defeated her easily (although it was a very tedious boring fight). The key appears to be this: forget everything you know about your character's abilities. This is especially true for Snipers since thinking like a Sniper simply won't work in this fight at all.

What I did differently that worked:

1. I changed up the quick bar to only have things that heal or shield or disrupt. No attacking abilities at all. As a long range DPS character, almost everything I had was best designed to attack from a distance, which won't work at all in this fight.

I basically used these four abilities:

A. Shield Probe
B. Adrenal Probe
C. Countermeasures
D. Escape

2. Then I just ran away from her the whole time. I kept running in circles, mostly counter-clockwise. Healed myself when necessary with the green "Memory of Healing", but lured her into the green circle to damage her.

No attacking at all. And just used the probes, countermeasures and escape to keep me alive long enough to get her into one of those green circles.

So basically, if you have a preferred fighting style, forget about it. It probably won't work here. You have to think differently for this fight. It's the only way you will win. That, and better gear.
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Meritangelos
11.07.2017 , 10:05 PM | #194
Confirmed. The gimmick is you don't actually fight her. Put the healing circles between her and yourself. If she is hit around 4-5 times she is finished.
Put your escape at 1. Use interrupts, avoidance and healings.

Just keep running around the stair. Try to keep out of sight. Keep an eye on your mini map for her location because sometimes she stops and you run back right into her. Not clever.

She has a pull spell she can use if you are in sight.
She has an explosive spell which will knock you over the cliff. She stops and builds this up, surrounded by a red circle. Avoid it.
If she catches you she can use a slam spell. Must be avoided at all costs. Interrupt and run.

Had my arse handed to me a number of times before I realized this. Use your fleet pass to mend your gear and push play to get you back. You will need it for the next battle.

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Axanimander
03.15.2018 , 10:00 PM | #195
First off, wanted to thank everyone for all of the feedback regarding this fight. Having tried it many, many times before looking here, I must say, I made it the first time once I read over some of the tactics. Here is what worked best for me:
1) Avoid line of sight with Vaylin's Spirit as much as possible
2) Let the "healing spirits" kill her - these are FAR more effective against her than any attacks you could muster, and the risk is almost zero. Keep running circles around the stairs, staying out of her line of sight, until you see one of the healing orbs spawn. Then, merely run past it, noting the path it will take (they rotate the stairs in a very noticeable pattern), and wait for Vaylin's spirit to engage you (in the path of the healing spirit). When the spirit makes contact with her, she will lose a lot of damage and be stunned for about 5 seconds. Rush her, hit her once or twice with your most powerful melee attacks, then run out of sight before she "unstuns."
3) Repeat this second step, occasionally using one of the healing spirits to maintain your health (if you don't have someone trapped in a holocron healing you, which I did not). Save your personal "unstun" abilities for when she gets stun happy, and try not to let your health get below 75%, as she can combo you into oblivion very quickly.

I was able to take her out with 4 or 5 healing orbs, and I only used two for myself. Total fight time: about two minutes

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AbilityDrain
03.18.2018 , 08:33 AM | #196
If anyone is still having trouble beating her, I found a handy oversight in the environment to help you beat her without actively engaging her in combat... yes, it's cheating but it's a useful last resort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-qlhh6wIjc

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Tarkashae
03.19.2018 , 06:10 PM | #197
I did this without the help from the holocron spirit. I got it on second attempt, with no idea what I was doing.

Level 70 darkness 'sin. I probably would have saved myself a lot of annoyance if I read about the fight and mechanics first

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ShadessaWayland
04.22.2018 , 01:42 AM | #198
for vaylin spirit you need to be mobiel and gunslinger/sniper are not realy that
when she charge up you have time to bunker and go full power but stay away of her range

and then kite around and take those heal things that are floating around the area
and w8 til she charge up again

its a long fight but with that am sure you can make it
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SteveTheCynic
05.03.2018 , 02:24 PM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadessaWayland View Post
for vaylin spirit you need to be mobiel and gunslinger/sniper are not realy that
when she charge up you have time to bunker and go full power but stay away of her range

and then kite around and take those heal things that are floating around the area
and w8 til she charge up again

its a long fight but with that am sure you can make it
Nope. It is in NO way *necessary* to be "mobile". It might *help* but it isn't *necessary*. When she curls up, run away to not be bounced off the island, but other than that, facetank her up close and personal(1). Or, rather, that's *always* worked for me. With or without Dramath, no difference.

And that includes on a Gunslinger that I deliberately gimped by releasing Dramath.

(1) If you can see a gap between the muzzle of your gun(s) and her face, you're too far away.
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alliehue
06.26.2018 , 10:04 AM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by WisTexOfficial View Post
Okay, I stopped playing the game for about 6 months because I could not get past this thing after about 50 tries. Then when I came back, I played other "end of game" content (mostly repeatable missions), purchased mods and slowly gathered better gear. After about 3 months, I decided I would try again. Read the forums once again. It had the same advice I tried before, but I decided, what the heck, I'd try it again.

Character: Level 70 Sniper, maxed out for DPS and long range attacks (my preferred way of fighting). All gear is over 200 (mostly level 65). Melee attacks are weak, almost no healing abilities other than the adrenal probe and by taking cover. Not the ideal character for this battle.

Attempt 1: Tried following most of the advice here about only attacking her within the purple range, running away when the red circle appears, etc. Tried to use cover to heal myself while she attacked. Kited her about half the time. Still died. I was still thinking like a Sniper.

Attempt 2: Decided to rethink everything, and defeated her easily (although it was a very tedious boring fight). The key appears to be this: forget everything you know about your character's abilities. This is especially true for Snipers since thinking like a Sniper simply won't work in this fight at all.

What I did differently that worked:

1. I changed up the quick bar to only have things that heal or shield or disrupt. No attacking abilities at all. As a long range DPS character, almost everything I had was best designed to attack from a distance, which won't work at all in this fight.

I basically used these four abilities:

A. Shield Probe
B. Adrenal Probe
C. Countermeasures
D. Escape

2. Then I just ran away from her the whole time. I kept running in circles, mostly counter-clockwise. Healed myself when necessary with the green "Memory of Healing", but lured her into the green circle to damage her.

No attacking at all. And just used the probes, countermeasures and escape to keep me alive long enough to get her into one of those green circles.

So basically, if you have a preferred fighting style, forget about it. It probably won't work here. You have to think differently for this fight. It's the only way you will win. That, and better gear.


I am a Jedi Shadow: I read several posts after trying and dying 2 times. So i popped in here and found the above ideas.

This is what I did: Moved my skill that interrupts to the 4 spot and then I kited (ran around like a chicken w/her head chopped off) and maneuvered my way around to get the Healing thingys between Vaylin and myself. I may have used a skill here and there but I kept moving. (i hardly had time to use my interrupt skill, kiting around like a sheet in the wind did it along with the healing circles)

I read a thread where a character stood at the bottom of the stairs, i tried that but mostly I just ran around and it worked. Getting Vaylin to be in the healing circles kills lowers her health tremendously and quick! (i did utilize the stairs as a way to get to the Healing areas quicker but if u try it, be sure not to jump from too high or you'll defeat that purpose ) lol

Thanks to those of you who posted what you did to defeat Vaylin.