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Was a train wreck on Umbara really necessary....

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Was a train wreck on Umbara really necessary....

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ceryxp
08.31.2017 , 10:25 AM | #11
Theron's first shot was a stun, which, though intended for you, didn't keep Lana down for very long. It may even be that Theron knew, knowing Lana and her capabilities as well as he does, that she would jump in front of you and take the hit herself. Next he shot out the window giving you a clear escape route.

My Jedi romanced Theron, we waited a long time to meet the one, so when this all went down I was pretty annoyed that we were losing our love. But upon reflection, considering the above, and the way Theron says he loves me, I'm starting to buy into this double-agent hypothesis more and more. Theron is a spy through and through so he would be constantly on the lookout for threats against the Alliance and his love interest. I wonder if he feels a little failure at not seeing the threat and attempt on our life that occurred during Eternal Throne and is taking this extreme course as a result.

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IoNonSoEVero
08.31.2017 , 10:47 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Dracofish View Post
All of that could easily have been faked. She conveniently knew to jump out the window, even though she was unconscious when he blew it out. And, she conveniently had nothing to add when the Commander questioned why Theron left the crystals behind.

In addition, it was Lana who said back on Rishi that she couldn't trust Theron to be convincing with his capture, so why would she trust the Commander, who with 7 out of 8 classes isn't a spy?
The way they've animated the characters says it all, I think. Lana's animated to look honestly shocked on the train, and angry afterward. Also, in Iokath, if you watch the cut scenes again, Theron's extremely cagey and cuts Lana off when she's talking about how suspicious it is that everyone found out about the superweapon at the same time. Lana, again, seems to be genuinely trying to figure it out.

As for the window - there's a long moment between the time Lana gets up to the time they jump out the window - long enough for Theron to walk away and get the speeder. Plenty of time for her to notice an open window in a small enclosed space - and just before the jump, you can see her looking around. Plus, being stunned doesn't mean she was unconscious, she could have simply been immobilized and still heard everything.

I do think Theron was aiming at Lana deliberately. He probably knew her immediate reflex was to protect the Commander, and that if she wasn't stunned, she'd just kill him immediately, so he wouldn't get time to do his little speech for whomever is listening in. So he takes her down, but doesn't hurt her.

Also, IMHO if Lana were in on it, she would at least be trying to steer the Commander into considering an ulterior motive, even an innocent line like, "what could have made Theron do something like this?" or "We need to figure out where this started," or something of that nature.

I just don't think Lana would go along with something of this nature. When she has Theron kidnapped in Rishi she doesn't put on a performance at all - it's mostly, "um, yeah, they got him. We should get him back." Which technically was true.

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SteveTheCynic
08.31.2017 , 03:01 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Dracofish View Post
All of that could easily have been faked. She conveniently knew to jump out the window, even though she was unconscious when he blew it out. And, she conveniently had nothing to add when the Commander questioned why Theron left the crystals behind.
Fussy: it would be glaringly obvious as soon as she got up that the window had been blown out. Wind, wind noise, broken bits on the floor, etc.
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08.31.2017 , 05:52 PM | #14
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I can't imagine a train wreck is avoidable in a story that involves action. Especially if there's a traitor plot involved.
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09.01.2017 , 12:25 AM | #15
Wow. I never expected so many interesting posts.....

I think I'll have to watch the whole scene again, with my eyes peeled. I think I may have missed a few clues the first time around....
It also seems to confirm that Theron is trying to infiltrate the shadow order by apparently defecting to their side. - He certainly seemed to be weighing the options when the commander mentioned that his actions would condemn millions to death. - possibly because his speech/broadcast was being monitored. - His letter in the mail didn't quite match his actions either - saying he'd always respect us - If he had really 'turned' he'd be unlikely to send a mail.

TY for all the responses so far.... food for thought....
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09.01.2017 , 02:49 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by IoNonSoEVero View Post
I do think Theron was aiming at Lana deliberately. He probably knew her immediate reflex was to protect the Commander, and that if she wasn't stunned, she'd just kill him immediately, so he wouldn't get time to do his little speech for whomever is listening in. So he takes her down, but doesn't hurt her.
Fully agree with this part especially, if Lana hadn't been stunned I have no doubt it my mind she probably would have just killed him or at the very least force choked him unconscious for interrogation later, it would be the Kovach situation all over again.
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