Make Shroud of Memory Available for Everyone

That's not even considering the fact that the character actually dies during kotfe, its kind of a alternative ending since HK-55 won't have any role going forward because to like 90% of players he does not even exist anymore.

Let's say they do this and give me a title or a mount or something. After a few weeks and the entitled whiners have done this bonus content they'll be right back here whining that they should have the title/mount/etc as well.

You *know* even this wouldn't stop the entitled whiners cuz they want everything in the game without doing what it takes to get it.

I can kind of understand that some people would be angry at the idea that "their" bonus chapter might be made available for sale to others. After all, they did fit the original criterias.
That being said, if I see another post claiming the chapter should be on sale for no less than 120$, I swear I'm gonna slam my head on a desk.
Let's keep it simple: You (As in, someone who qualified for the bonus chapter when it was released) did not pay 120$ for it. It doesn't matter that you feel like you did because it was your only motivation for subbing. You paid 120$ (Or whatever the actual price was) for:
-7 months of sub (Meaning full and unlimited access to all the game's content) + complimentary cartel coins
-Every single HK-Reward (No matter how silly/crappy you might think they were)
-HK-55 returned as a companion
-The bonus chapter.
If you (Again, you being the owner of "Shroud of Memory") sincerely believe that the chapter should only be sold for that much money, then it should also include all of the above content.

That being said, I do believe that should Shroud of Memory were to be made purchaseable, it should only be through direct payment and not CC, as many have stated, too many free CCs around. And it should just include HK-55 and the chapter (It doesn't make sense otherwise). The other rewards are not necessary. And a good price would be 15/20$ tops. Because no matter how much some feel like it should only be sold for twenty trillion dollars, it still one hour long, gameplay and cutscene. And Shadow of Revan which provided several hours of content was more or less that price already.

Until the same folks complaining here start complaining about how it's unfair that some people got a title and/or customizations and/or stronghold decorations and/or whatever that they can not have.

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I do not have all of the rewards, but it's not because I wasn't aware of how to get them.
No one that played should have been unaware.

So it comes down to choice.

Everyone that does not have the extra rewards does not have them because they chose not to have them.

People may have subbed, even if it wasn't the most convenient thing in the world for them to do at that time, just to get those rewards.

No one gets to tell them that they shouldn't have subbed just for that. It was something that they felt was important.

Diminishing that commitment, trying to tell them that they shouldn't have done it, is just making excuses for those that didn't bother.

Because if those people want it now? Then they darn well should have bothered to stay subbed back then.
If they had then they would have it now.

If it wasn't important enough for them to stay subscribed then then it shouldn't be important enough for Bioware to worry about now.

Never mind the whole "precedent" thing resulting in everyone demanding everything because it's not fair that this was a limited time thing or that you had to participate in some specific activity for that if they give in on any "exclusive" content.

It's funny that some of the same people that want to diminish the content itself, that it's no big deal to release because it only takes a short time to run through it, are the same folks making such a big deal out of getting it for themselves.

What about new subscribers? (Let me be clear, I am not talking about myself - I've been subbed/not subbed for years depending on how much I'm playing the game.)

With all the whining about PvP/ group finding not popping, you'd think current subs would want new players in the game.

Some people are completionists, and want to finish all the story lines (again, not me, I could be arsed about getting all the achievements).

This Bonus Chapters shows up to everyone, even NEW SUBS who didn not have an option to get it initially, and will, apparently, never have an option to get it.

Having story content show up in the quest log as though it's available, but will never be, it like giving a giant finger to a new subscriber and telling them they will never be as good as the founding members of the club.

That is not a good way to make new players feel welcome.

Whether or not those who subscribed for the 8 continuous months got other things for that $120 (8 months at the single month rate) is irrelevant. Everyone who has access to that chapter had to pay the subscription for 8 months.

No one who has access to that chapter was able to say "I don't want this stuff. Let me pay $10-$20 and get the chapter."

Why should those who KNOW they did NOT meet the clear and explicit criteria but want the BONUS CHAPTER anyway have access to that chapter for a pittance? Why should those who KNOW they are NOT entitled to have access to that chapter be given access to it in the first place, let alone for the pittance of $10-$20 when everyone who DID meet the criteria paid well over $100 to have that access?

As another poster noted, since you want to claim the BONUS CHAPTER is so insignificant, then it will not hurt those who did NOT meet the clear and explicit criteria to live without such an insignificant amount of story.

If, on the other hand, it is so important that everyone be given access to it, then everyone can pay an amount at least equal to (IMO, at least 50% more, there should be a cost for being given a second chance) what those who DID meet the criteria payed.

And no, that would only be for the BONUS CHAPTER. Each individual subscriber reward should be handled individually, with no "package deals". Again, that should be part of the "cost" of being given a second chance to obtain those limited time items.

I do not know of any MMO that will guarantee that a player that starts playing 5 years after launch can obtain everything that the player that has been playing since launch was able to obtain.

In games, as in life, things change and sometimes things that were once available, are no longer available.

... and that's perfectly OK.

Especially when people constantly want things for long-term subscribers as a "thanks" for supporting the game for so long and stuff that isn't available any longer is one of those things and if they're made available to anyone just starting that diminishes our value as long-term subscribers.

You didn't read what I wrote, right?
Like, at all.
120$ was never the price of Shroud of Memory. It was the price of 8 months of sub which happened to make you elligible for FREE access to Shroud of Memory. Even if you feel like you paid those 120$ to access the chapter, you didn't. What you purchased were eight month of continuous subscription. And you were rewarded for it.
It doesn't matter that you feel like you paid for the chapter, legally speaking you didn't. As such, should Bioware decide to put the chapter on sale, it should be sold for a price adjusted to it's content. Not some wild number you arbitrarily set because you are somewhat offended by the idea that Bioware values more the possibility of making money than your privileges.
Also, you keep talking about eligibility and that the terms were clear. But all they say is that to gain acces to the chapter "as a sub reward", you needed to subscribe at the indicated date. It is written nowhere that the chapter may never be made available any other way. And believe me, what is written in these kinds of terms is as important as what isn't.
And I also stand by the idea that any sale of Shroud of Memory should also contain HK-55 post-Asylum since the whole context of the chapter hinges on him having been restored by Arma Rasa.

@Leklor: That does make sense. Long term subscribers met criteria to get chapter for free, others have to buy it to have it. But it wont be seen this way, unfortunately.