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New items for the Contraband vendor / changes to Contraband Slot Machine

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New items for the Contraband vendor / changes to Contraband Slot Machine
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KeithKanneg
07.20.2017 , 11:06 AM | #51 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
I checked and any changes pertaining to Certificates are in the backlog, but not scheduled. Looking at the Roadmap for the next 90+ days, I don't see the priority getting raised enough to make it on the active list. I know that's not what you wanted to read, so apologies for being the bearer of bad news.

With respect to a Roadmap update, we're working on it and I'll post updates in a different thread sometime soon (so please don't ask about it here).

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07.20.2017 , 11:50 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by KeithKanneg View Post
I checked and any changes pertaining to Certificates are in the backlog, but not scheduled. Looking at the Roadmap for the next 90+ days, I don't see the priority getting raised enough to make it on the active list. I know that's not what you wanted to read, so apologies for being the bearer of bad news.

With respect to a Roadmap update, we're working on it and I'll post updates in a different thread sometime soon (so please don't ask about it here).

---Keith
How long does changing a drop rate for an item already in the loot tables for the Slot Machine take?
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07.20.2017 , 11:51 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
How long does changing a drop rate for an item already in the loot tables for the Slot Machine take?
probably not a how long just more of not a priority it seems. Unless there is something else they have planned other then just changing the drop rate.
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07.20.2017 , 12:15 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightblazer View Post
probably not a how long just more of not a priority it seems. Unless there is something else they have planned other then just changing the drop rate.
I have to run the planning with our backlog list as well. It really isn't a question of how long does it take, but where it falls priority wise.
Think of each development cycle as being 100 points. Each item gets assigned a point value. A large item might be 300 points, so they decide to break that up across several cycles - so let's say it is 50 points each cycle for 6 of them. That leaves 50 points in current cycle. Then you have medium items 10-15 points and small items 3-5 points. So that 100 points can be spent pretty quickly. And they have that backlog and prioritize how these points are spent.

So while this change might only be 1-2 points, it just doesn't fit into the allotment and can't be worked on because the guy who may only spend an hour updating it (pure conjecture on that time) doesn't have a free hour to do so.
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07.20.2017 , 12:26 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by KeithKanneg View Post
I checked and any changes pertaining to Certificates are in the backlog, but not scheduled. Looking at the Roadmap for the next 90+ days, I don't see the priority getting raised enough to make it on the active list. I know that's not what you wanted to read, so apologies for being the bearer of bad news.

With respect to a Roadmap update, we're working on it and I'll post updates in a different thread sometime soon (so please don't ask about it here).

---Keith
Hey Keith, Thanks for getting back to us. It is unfortunate that this isn't a high priority, but its understandable. I look forward to hearing more news about this in the future on your road map!

EDIT: Keep up the great communication!

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Xina_LA
07.20.2017 , 12:39 PM | #56
I feel like this is an issue that already waited and finally came due, but the fix wasn't quite right.
It's a shame that it has to go to the back of the line instead of sticking with the task until it's really finished.
I'm disappointed, but I'll forget all about my disappointment if there are some good bug fixes in the roadmap.
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07.20.2017 , 01:39 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
How long does changing a drop rate for an item already in the loot tables for the Slot Machine take?
That's what I would like to know. Shouldn't this only be a change in values?
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07.20.2017 , 01:41 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by KeithKanneg View Post
I checked and any changes pertaining to Certificates are in the backlog, but not scheduled. Looking at the Roadmap for the next 90+ days, I don't see the priority getting raised enough to make it on the active list. I know that's not what you wanted to read, so apologies for being the bearer of bad news.

With respect to a Roadmap update, we're working on it and I'll post updates in a different thread sometime soon (so please don't ask about it here).

---Keith
Lame, thanks for assuring I stay away and let my sub lapse again (not that this is my only reason by any means). I have all this rep I earned with real money by supporting your game, but I can't buy anything from the vendors because I can't reliably get Cartel Certificates anymore.
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07.20.2017 , 03:13 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
How long does changing a drop rate for an item already in the loot tables for the Slot Machine take?
My guess is not that long, but I think the fix they have in mind will not touch the slot machine. The last time they changed the slot machine, everyone got pissed off (for good reason), and I think they don't want to open that can of worms. They need to have a designer spend time to come up with a proper solution for a developer to implement and not band-aid the problem via the slot machine.

To fix it right, I can see that it will take a bit of work to do, and I totally see why it isn't priority. I don't like it, but I get it. If I was in Bioware's spot, I would probably make the same decision.
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07.20.2017 , 03:51 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by KeithKanneg View Post
I checked and any changes pertaining to Certificates are in the backlog, but not scheduled. Looking at the Roadmap for the next 90+ days, I don't see the priority getting raised enough to make it on the active list. I know that's not what you wanted to read, so apologies for being the bearer of bad news.

With respect to a Roadmap update, we're working on it and I'll post updates in a different thread sometime soon (so please don't ask about it here).

---Keith
I didn't think cartel market changes had a lot do with the roadmap at all? Do you personally have much say in the happenings of the cartel market?

I think a simple "change" that would make the cartel packs far more valuable and sought after is adding back in cartel market certificates, perhaps as a rare drop in place of a companion gift?
Any other changes beyond the cartel market for certificates could come later ( new reputation etc.) but many would be happy just getting this value back in the packs and looking at how few are being sold on the GTN lately and the insane pricing (40-50 mill a crate) I'm guessing sales are tanking on CM pack sales (but I guess only you at BWA would know this) so any help in sales you can get has got to be a good thing right?