Make Shroud of Memory Available for Everyone

Keith, though he shouldn't have to waste his time, should just come in here and set the record straight. Seriously, people need to chill. There'll be other rewards!

But, if they were to offer the bonus chapter than it would be EA's doing, I think it's a little unfair to put that on BW.

Blaming EA for what Bioware does with it's game would be like blaming Pepsi Co that your frap from Starbucks didn't have enough whipped cream. I suppose you're one of those who think Disney makes all the decisions you hate in Star Wars and Marvel movies as well?

There is a difference between in game items and subscriber rewards.

I do not recall any terms and conditions that applied to those "exclusive mounts and outfits" of which you speak. Perhaps you could provide links to said "terms and conditions".

I have provided numerous links to the clear and explicit criteria that applied to subscriber rewards, including the bonus chapter.

look for the clear and explicit event ads

Actually, Disney has made a few good decisions, much better than GL would ever make these days, namely revamping the convoluted mess that was the EU, what's your point?

All I'm saying is that BW mightn't necessarily be fully to blame if the chapter appeared on the CM.

I guess that means you cannot provide links to any clear and explicit terms and conditions that apply to those in game items.

Ads are not terms and conditions. Hence, the fine print which many ads also contain.

But, to your point, the links I provided to those clear and explicit terms and conditions that apply to subscriber rewards also included ads for those same rewards. Those ads are followed by those clear and explicit terms and conditions.

Personally, that was the decision that pretty much convinced me to drop Star Wars altogether, so I wouldn't say that's necessarily a good decision. I adored the EU (and never found it at all convoluted, it was pretty much completely internally consistent in my experience), and hated Force Awakens enough that it almost killed my interest in the series (thankfully Rogue One was excellent and restored my hopes, but I'm still not going to waste my time with Episode 8).


I think the chapter appearing would probably be a BW decision, though, I doubt a single item like that is really something EA cares about.

It's also something I am 100% in favor of, because I strongly believe that story content should NEVER be gated behind a time-limited purchase. (heck, ignoring the time limited part, remember the uproar when BW added some cutscenes to the cartel market Encrypted Datacubes? That was nothing compared to gating an entire chapter behind a time limit). I get the idea of incentives, but story should be available to anyone willing to purchase it. Subscriber incentives should be mounts, decorations, pets, titles, gear, that sort of thing. As for the people who did sub in order to get the chapter...IMO they were ripped off anyway since they paid over $100 for a single short chapter. If that was the only reason they subscribed, then subscribing was probably a mistake. Regardless, nothing is being taken from them if the chapter is made available to others to purchase. They got it, and all of the associated rewards, many months before everyone else.

Now, if Bioware were to go the extra mile and give a special reward to everyone who did Shroud of Memory prior to it being put on the Cartel Market, that would be awesome. I would absolutely support that - give players who subscribed for it a special title, maybe some special customizations for HK and Z0-0M, stronghold decoration, something along those lines. That would definitely be a nice thing for them to do.

Why not I have it ....If someone else wants it too it does not diminish my game. Its like Nico Okar I have been subbed since late 2016... But I do not get nico okar or h55 during the alliance alert mission. But I did get shae vizla which everyone can get later anyway. I think for people who sub they should get early access to new companions etc. While others should play the game and wait to get them but still have a chance to get those companions.

How can you people not see the difference here? Those mounts were just in the game as regular items and were removed. They were *never* offered as an incentive to subscribe. Same goes for previous event items (ie. Life Day, Chevin, etc) that were *never* offered as an incentive to subscribe so bringing them back in some way is a non-issue and somewhat expected.

The SUBSCRIBER INCENTIVES, that is, SUBSCRIBE ON/DURING THIS TIME and RECEIVE <ITEM> are INCENTIVES TO SUBSCRIBE. You *cannot* compare SUBSCRIBER INCENTIVES to previous items that were around for a while and then gone.

If you can find "clear and explicit terms" stating those mounts would never be offered again I'll eat my shoe. Whereas, the SUBSCRIBER INCENTIVES are very clear in their wording that you only get <ITEM> if you follow the "rules" and to make them available again would be a huge nut-kick to those of us who helped support the game during those times. And, no, these situations are not "practically identical", but you guys are the ones who ignore facts and make stuff up just to get what you don't have.

TL;DR - It's absolutely OK for things to not be available to everyone all of the time.

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Only those who met the requirements can get Shae Vizla to join them as a companion, not "everyone."