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Sorry, this game is another Conan.

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Crash-X
12.30.2011 , 04:01 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by MargulisAZ View Post
Gotta love the fanboi armada that comes in after these posts, lol. yeah it was a bit trollish in nature, I'll give the op that, but man, you fanbois crack me up way more than the troll posts.
Gotta love how whenever people disagree with a negative thread that they all must be fanbois instead of people that just enjoy the game and have a differing opinion.

Seems like everyone that doesn't think "This game is average and will fail" is a fanboi nowadays.

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jiztek
12.30.2011 , 04:09 AM | #112
man he capped out already? he must love this game

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RachelAnne
12.30.2011 , 04:16 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Tickletime View Post
lol.. saying its another conan is far too harsh.. that game was COMPLETELY unfinished after lvl 20, and incredibly bland combat with the exception of finishers
+ had a client that caused crashes all the time, even high end pc´s had lag, the DX support wasnt working ...

AoC was a pre alpha, today its a good game tho!

Regarding SWTOR, I like it and it runs smooth. I am not sure yet what awaits me at lvl 50, if there is no content atm then I still can lvl many chars until I am done with this game.

MMO`s are not about getting phat lewt at max lvl, dont believe what wow has teached you, its a bad example of a working MMO, which wasnt always the case - vanilla did rock.

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Qoojo
12.30.2011 , 04:21 AM | #114
AoC was a fun game at release, but suffered from really bad devs that kept nerfing everything. I expect 25-50% of the people from release to leave with the first couple of months. That's how things work these days. Players that haven't seen anything but WoW keep trying to jump to new MMOs. They expect everything to be like WoW. Whip through game to the end, then post how they are bored and the other MMO is so much better. After much whining and drama, they leave.

Maybe SW is big enough to buck the trend but I doubt it.


This post is Wookie approved and
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Enako
12.30.2011 , 04:31 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by JediSanta View Post
The honeymoon feeling is wearing off for many players and they are finding out, it just is not that great.
yes and now provide the statistics for that 'many players'.

...................

or is it just your own opinion passing as a fact.

'many people like to eat bird dodo !'

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Enako
12.30.2011 , 04:37 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallaliak View Post
This thread had me wondering a bit. Those who labels this a single player game with mmo-content, what exactly is a mmorpg for you people?
let me answer you in their stead :

mmo for the people who cram in the mmo forums of hardcore progressive mmos basically can be summarized as :

making your statistics on your gear progress by gathering 0.1% drop chance rewards by repetitively grinding through 'end game' instances/raids through excessive effort for aeons .


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we also are afflicted with a huge number of these here, mainly due to the fact that blizzard has seen how badly this affected subscriptions, gameplay content (only 5% had had seen molten core or similar endgame 'content' for example) and therefore led to a decline in the mmo eventually - and then proceeded to nerf their game to make it more accessible.

aaaand they drop in to the next big mmo as they always do, they are here, they are already level 50 and they already had had started complaining about how this game was not hardcore enough since when they were level 10.

...............

there you have it.

this is the insatiable menace of mmo gaming. in their mind, their opinion, their preference, their 'endlessly effort requiring pathetically rewarding gear progression/achievement' surpasses ALL. basically it is what gaming should be, for them. ANY game that is not as such, is some kid's toy. (as if simulations, strategies do not exist).

ANY game therefore, has to be like that, and anyone who is not foolish enough to grind/toil for 2-3 hours every night and then sit in front of the computer in tension and effort through 4 hours 2 week nights without even taking off to going to the loo, is not a 'gamer' but something they deride as 'casual' or 'carebear'.

in case you noticed, they have rushed to level 50, did not enjoy the content, did not enjoy the story, did not enjoy the scenery, did not explore the game - they 'achieved' level 50 and now complaining.

.....................

in fact, there is NO mandatory definition of a mmo. swg was a mmo. eve is a mmo. ANYthing can be a mmo as long as it is massively multiplayer. there is NO requirement for gear progression or end boss beating through long efforts.

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whineo
12.30.2011 , 04:42 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Incusprimordial View Post
I eagerly anticipate the next major patches and expansions of this game, almost as much as i anticipated this game itself, to witness where it is going from here.
word

now that im finally back in after the patch launcher issues im excited to see how they progress this game.

What they have released is by no means perfect but I cant help but feel optimistic about its future

There is only so much polish you can add from beta. Refinement of the product comes from issues and feedback after the final release.

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Enako
12.30.2011 , 04:43 AM | #118
in addition, coming here complaining about how they hit level 50, how they did 'everything' and how the game is 'bad' and 'lacking' and they cant find 'anything' to do this and that, are just subconscious and implied expressions of 'look look ! im so good that i beat this game so fast. all see my achievement'.

the extent of expressed malcontent, boredom, disgust is proportional to how much they want to stress their success. they have succeeded SO well that they are now bored proportionally.

................

there is no fix for this kind of mindset. the only way this mindset can be happy, is continually acquiring games they did not 'beat' yet, and 'beating' them. noone, no company, no game can satiate these people.

i have been there. i have done that. when you are like that, you are insatiable.

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Ravand
12.30.2011 , 05:33 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by JediSanta View Post
The honeymoon feeling is wearing off for many players and they are finding out, it just is not that great. Yes, it is a good game-but it is very standard and a little too basic.

Getting to 50 was a breeze. Getting crew skills to 400 literally took hours. There is no challenge to this game at all. 3 Wzs and they are very, very broken. How many times must I log into Huttball, find it has already started and then get tossed out because I am stuck in the start zone behind the barrier.

The classes are not diverse enough and endgame offers nothing at all to keep this game afloat.

Yes, I agree with everyone else--stop comparing this game to WOW, it is not even close to a WOW. It is more on the level of DC Universe Online and sadly--will no doubt meet the same fate as DCUO and be f2p in a year.

I like the game, it just has nothing really to offer for my $$$.

Flame away, just mark my words and we will see in a year.

Ok seriously now... how much they pay you... is it a worthy profession ?
Cause if they don't pay you, the alternative is being stupid.

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Aethyrprime
01.01.2012 , 02:28 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
let me answer you in their stead :

mmo for the people who cram in the mmo forums of hardcore progressive mmos basically can be summarized as :

making your statistics on your gear progress by gathering 0.1% drop chance rewards by repetitively grinding through 'end game' instances/raids through excessive effort for aeons .


..........................

we also are afflicted with a huge number of these here, mainly due to the fact that blizzard has seen how badly this affected subscriptions, gameplay content (only 5% had had seen molten core or similar endgame 'content' for example) and therefore led to a decline in the mmo eventually - and then proceeded to nerf their game to make it more accessible.

aaaand they drop in to the next big mmo as they always do, they are here, they are already level 50 and they already had had started complaining about how this game was not hardcore enough since when they were level 10.

...............

there you have it.

this is the insatiable menace of mmo gaming. in their mind, their opinion, their preference, their 'endlessly effort requiring pathetically rewarding gear progression/achievement' surpasses ALL. basically it is what gaming should be, for them. ANY game that is not as such, is some kid's toy. (as if simulations, strategies do not exist).

ANY game therefore, has to be like that, and anyone who is not foolish enough to grind/toil for 2-3 hours every night and then sit in front of the computer in tension and effort through 4 hours 2 week nights without even taking off to going to the loo, is not a 'gamer' but something they deride as 'casual' or 'carebear'.

in case you noticed, they have rushed to level 50, did not enjoy the content, did not enjoy the story, did not enjoy the scenery, did not explore the game - they 'achieved' level 50 and now complaining.

.....................

in fact, there is NO mandatory definition of a mmo. swg was a mmo. eve is a mmo. ANYthing can be a mmo as long as it is massively multiplayer. there is NO requirement for gear progression or end boss beating through long efforts.
Well said. +1