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Gear Drops on Non-Final Bosses in Master Mode Ops Contradict Patch Notes

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Gear Drops on Non-Final Bosses in Master Mode Ops Contradict Patch Notes
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04.27.2017 , 06:52 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by omaan View Post
I would be happy if it is true. I really don't like the idea that pve gearing became such fast way of gearing up, whereas pvp requires tonns of time to gear up
Spoken like someone who has never done any operations, let alone NiM operations. They are some of the hardest content in the game to clear. It isnt like most groups are going to be able to go in there and farm these ops. The hardest content in the game SHOULD reward those who are able to clear it. The fact that PVP gearing is so much more difficult is something that should be argued seperately
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04.27.2017 , 07:34 AM | #22 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hmm... I will pass this on to the team to see what's up. Thanks for the info!

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04.27.2017 , 07:52 AM | #23 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by FerkWork View Post
According to the patch notes for 5.2:
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Also in this thread it was stated:



However this is not the reality for non final bosses in Master Mode Ops. As stated here, elsewhere, and in personal experience that is not true. Those bosses are dropping an assembled random blue or purple assembled piece that can be for any class even if that class is not present in raid. That's not even counting the fact that 244 or 246 can't be upgraded via PvP and 244 has inferior mod and overal same as HM 242. Not to mention there are no vendors for them even if they were unassembled.

So Devs can you either clarify this or fix it. Either have them drop 246 or just make them all drop 248 in NiM preferably the latter as you you can get BiS by doing HM Ops and upgrading via PvP; also it make the system less convoluted. Please don't repeat 4.0 with another NiM loot debacle. Thanks.
After talking with the team, currently this is my error in the patch notes. It is intended that non-final bosses are dropping Prototype and Artifact gear (not unassembled, which is my error). However, given the feedback of this thread (and the one you linked) the team is looking at improving this experience in the future.

Apologies for the confusion. I will let you know of any potential changes to this in the future and I will get the patchnotes updated.

-eric
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04.27.2017 , 07:55 AM | #24
Thanks for clearing things up Eric!

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04.27.2017 , 08:10 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
After talking with the team, currently this is my error in the patch notes. It is intended that non-final bosses are dropping Prototype and Artifact gear (not unassembled, which is my error). However, given the feedback of this thread (and the one you linked) the team is looking at improving this experience in the future.

Apologies for the confusion. I will let you know of any potential changes to this in the future and I will get the patchnotes updated.

-eric
How could "the team" possibly think it was a good idea to reward players doing the hardest content in the game with random gear?! Random gearing doesn't even belong in SM ops, let alone NiM...
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04.27.2017 , 08:36 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by masterceil View Post
How could "the team" possibly think it was a good idea to reward players doing the hardest content in the game with random gear?! Random gearing doesn't even belong in SM ops, let alone NiM...
Weird how it was also moved to Bug Report forums even though they're saying it's intended

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04.27.2017 , 08:39 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
After talking with the team, currently this is my error in the patch notes. It is intended that non-final bosses are dropping Prototype and Artifact gear (not unassembled, which is my error). However, given the feedback of this thread (and the one you linked) the team is looking at improving this experience in the future.

Apologies for the confusion. I will let you know of any potential changes to this in the future and I will get the patchnotes updated.

-eric
I have to admit, I'm a little dissapointed that this was even considered a worthy reward for Nightmare Operations (Master mode, whatever the cool kids are calling it these day). The Mods you get in the gear is arguably worse than you get in Hardmode with the 244 blue enhancements in many cases having the same stats as the 242 golds from HM (Veteran Mode in new and 'trendy'? speak), the only part that is actually an upgrade is the armoring which comes out random anyways making it hard to gear.

It also doesn't make any sense at all that easier content give you a token which lets you choose which set bonus to purchase. It seems to me like a massive FUBAR on behalf of the design team. I'd expect this sort of loot system to be put into easier content, 'little effort, little reward so be happy you get anything' kind of deal but to put the worst system of gearing in the most difficult tier almost makes me think it was a mix up and supposed to be implemented at a lower tier, I mean really can we all just admit this wasn't a good idea and move forward? (or just forgo the admitting part and pretend it never happened, i'd be ok with that too)
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04.27.2017 , 08:43 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
After talking with the team, currently this is my error in the patch notes. It is intended that non-final bosses are dropping Prototype and Artifact gear (not unassembled, which is my error). However, given the feedback of this thread (and the one you linked) the team is looking at improving this experience in the future.

Apologies for the confusion. I will let you know of any potential changes to this in the future and I will get the patchnotes updated.

-eric
Thanks Eric, while that is dissapointing, I am hopeful for future changes.
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04.27.2017 , 09:06 AM | #29 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Quote: Originally Posted by curulz View Post
Weird how it was also moved to Bug Report forums even though they're saying it's intended
I moved it here since at the time I wasn't sure whether it was intended and incorrect in the notes, or a bug. To the bug report forum it goes to be investigated .

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04.27.2017 , 09:15 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
After talking with the team, currently this is my error in the patch notes. It is intended that non-final bosses are dropping Prototype and Artifact gear (not unassembled, which is my error). However, given the feedback of this thread (and the one you linked) the team is looking at improving this experience in the future.

Apologies for the confusion. I will let you know of any potential changes to this in the future and I will get the patchnotes updated.

-eric
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
However, if a group of players is skilled enough to run through multiple Nightmare Operations in a single week, we should reward that appropriately.
-eric
So....?