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Treek is broken, worthless, we paid REAL MONEY for her.

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Treek is broken, worthless, we paid REAL MONEY for her.

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Keta
03.23.2017 , 09:24 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Equeliber View Post
Okay, we can flame him for spending real money all day.

But it won't change the fact that he is right - Treek is the weakest healer companion in the game. To a point where you might get close do death on squishier classes or even die. Heck, there is a heroic on Nar Shaddaa - called Terminal Injuries. It has a bonus objective to kill 45 enemies. As the area is instanced, you can just aggro them all together, bring to the corner room and kill all 30-40 at once. My rank 50 Jaesa heals me through this massacre without any issues. With rank 50 Treek I die when grouping them up... Can't even get to the point where I can spam my aoe.

That's just one of the tests I did. DPS Treek is weak as well. I have tested with my friend's rank 50 companion. We started a duel, and let his rank 50 Vette fight my rank 50 Treek. Both in dps stance. Treek lost. Completely. Same in tank stance.

In tank stance Treek has no taunt. At all. Only weak aggro generating abilities. Basically, she can't hold even 2 enemies on her.

So yes, Treek is broken, worthless and needs to be fixed. Just having cool animations won't change the fact that she is uber weak.
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03.23.2017 , 10:27 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by LordGermanicuss View Post
When did I EVER, ONCE say that she should be better than any other companion? I never did. She's 20 seconds slower at healing, that is awful and broken. You don't even use her as you say, so you literally know jack about this and are just taking the time to post nonsense about something you know nothing of, wow, some people.
I don't understand how that equates to her being broken. Does she still heal? Yes? Then she isn't broken. She's just slower at it.

I don't use companions I don't like. And boy, do I not like Treek. I certainly wouldn't spend any real money on her. But, oddly enough, I still have her. So equating "real money" to "rebalance your comp" is a stupid point. The amount of money you spend on her doesn't mean she needs to be any better or worse off than any other companion nor does she need to be balanced the same. It has absolutely no correlation what-so-ever.

Treek does what Treek does. If its comparatively worse than another companion, then don't use Treek for that role. Simple as that. The money you paid is irrelevant because it was used to access her easily. You paid for the privilege of activation, not for the effectiveness of the companion.

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BoySaber
03.23.2017 , 10:53 AM | #93
Treek is not free, acquiring her requires real money investment. Be that cartel coins or in game credits that require subscription status to bypass escrow. Even if you are lucky and get escrow extensions from GTN, those were bought with real money by a player. Real money has to be paid by someone if you want to have that companion. It is made to look like it's free, but the only way Treek companion to join your crew is for money to be paid by you or someone else. I don't say that's bad this game is about selling items and companions and stuff and that's all alright, it's just bit annoying how people were tricked into believing the companion is free, and even today believe so.

Treek was the best when it came out and was unique and we paid for it. Now we no longer have what we paid for, all what remains is a shell of her. I think that Z0-0M companion is now the most powerful one, at least with healing.
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03.23.2017 , 10:55 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Soul_of_Flames View Post
I don't understand how that equates to her being broken.
She's "broken" in the sense that she's purchased with real money, not acquired in the game through play. Because of how bugged she is right now, she's literally a waste of money. CM items need to be comparable...not crap.
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Jdast
03.23.2017 , 11:51 AM | #95
Soul of Flames,

You remind me of an annoying graduate student who likes to try and one-up professors by playing semantic games. What you say, of course, is objectively true. It is also absurd on its face. Is an ice cream cone with one tiny chip of chocolate still a chocolate chip ice cream cone? In your literal and narrow-minded world, yes.

In the real world, i.e., the business world where there are consumers, the relevant question is as follows: "In an era of normalization of companions, is it reasonable to expect that Treek will perform relatively on par with others?"

Most consumers would say, yes. The problem is that Treek objectively performs worse in every role.

So, congratulations, you score debating points for being technically correct and are no doubt basking in your self-righteous pseudo-intellectual prowess. At the end of the day, it remains a foolish decision on the part of the Devs not to address the issue, particularly since it is presumably easy to fix.

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keetrazor
03.23.2017 , 12:28 PM | #96
You all need to chill. YES he spent real money on her. What he does with his wallet is his own choice. The point of this thread is that Treek is in desperate need of a buff, and is painfully difficult use. The devs need to fix this, and we can only hope that someday they see this thread.
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03.23.2017 , 12:33 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Jdast View Post
Soul of Flames,

You remind me of an annoying graduate student who likes to try and one-up professors by playing semantic games. What you say, of course, is objectively true. It is also absurd on its face. Is an ice cream cone with one tiny chip of chocolate still a chocolate chip ice cream cone? In your literal and narrow-minded world, yes.

In the real world, i.e., the business world where there are consumers, the relevant question is as follows: "In an era of normalization of companions, is it reasonable to expect that Treek will perform relatively on par with others?"

Most consumers would say, yes. The problem is that Treek objectively performs worse in every role.

So, congratulations, you score debating points for being technically correct and are no doubt basking in your self-righteous pseudo-intellectual prowess. At the end of the day, it remains a foolish decision on the part of the Devs not to address the issue, particularly since it is presumably easy to fix.
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Andryah
03.23.2017 , 01:25 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by keetrazor View Post
You all need to chill. YES he spent real money on her. What he does with his wallet is his own choice. The point of this thread is that Treek is in desperate need of a buff, and is painfully difficult use. The devs need to fix this, and we can only hope that someday they see this thread.
OP has not been back to the forum in 9 months folks. He's long gone.. so no need to respond to all his passionate and demanding rhetoric.

Further with the thread also being 9 months old.. I think it is relevant for some of those throwing comparison numbers around to actually run fresh comparisons to see if she is still "underpowered" or not... given we have had 9 months of patches since this thread went dormant. And IF testing finds she is.. then capture said data and share it with the studio as your case to get her addressed, rather then whine-festing a long dormant thread from last summer. In other words... like anything else that is not working right... BUG REPORT IT with specifics that are clear and actionable.

Personally, I have not used Treek for actual combat on any of my characters in more then a year. So I have no idea what her current state of effectiveness is. I do use her on a number of my characters to run crew missions.
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midianlord
03.23.2017 , 03:09 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by LordGermanicuss View Post
That wasn't an option before...When we bought her.
That you allowed yourself to be fleeced by dint of "Shiny! Want! Now!" is no-one's fault but your own.

Try taking responsibility for your own choices, for once?

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PatrykJesionek
03.24.2017 , 07:35 AM | #100
Still

Tank Stance: Have problems taunting enemies, have lower stats than other tanks
Heal Stance: Have weak healing, I died with her at 30 affection where other companions keep me at 90% HP
DPS Stance: Similar to HK-51 = bad
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