Regs have gone to crap

Just do what we did on Progenitor, reps stopped quing and the Imp premades were against the imp premades, which lead to very stupid games and everyone lost interest in PVP

Was a crazy time.

We have rep characters. Give me a whisper and we can log over to rep side no problem!

That actually is already happening kind of, because I have been playing pvp today and got literally NOTHING but 4v4s on rep side because of lack of people queuing

You make way to much sense man. Thats not a PvP thing to do :P

btw. I mostly do premades but thats more because after opstime we go in for some PvP fun with a few friends. We could ofc try our best to not get in the same group but that would be a tad silly. I'm in this group because I like to play with friends so ehm .... thats why some people might run into a TSS premade. And no we are not always winning since most of us are not good. Just like playing together.

If you see a crazy gunslinger charging right at you 50/50 chance it will be me :P

It's super easy. They are super fast coordinating. They come in a set. Tank, healer, dps. They make it impossible to kill anything. You strike a node with one little guy there and boom, the trinity is upon you faster than the guy could type it. You can see who's clearly on vent and who is typing. But the biggest sign is when there is the trinity that comes out together, always together to hit you like a well oiled machine. And you may not die outright but you don't make any progress. There is no catching them off guard because they are that fast to respond. You'll get your suspicions in that game but when the next 3 games pop and it's the same four dudes with one dps node watcher and the perfect trinity...

Other ways: hypergate- they send all stealths to enemy side to sit on the ramp sleep darting you all the way down until low and behold out pops a mara to finish you off while the other keeps you stunned. It happens so fast along that area that you can tell they're communicating via vent not typing. So once they killed the whole team they prevented anyone from surviving leaving the ramp. As an operative I was a runner and they were on me so fast I still died. That was an in progress game I joined. I wondered why when people respawned they weren't leaving the safe zone. I quickly found out why and why there was only 4 on that team. I waited 5 mins before hitting queue after I abandoned the wz.

Why are people saying they premade for fun? Like, really? So, why not score the 6 kiffing goals so the match can be over in 2 minutes? Why are you laughing and dancing and holding on to the ball in the opponents goal area, and passing it from player to player while farming the other team? Why do you zap someone then unstealth and dance in their face while your team mate cap?

Losing a game doesn't mean that both teams didn't have fun. I have lost games where I had the most fun and i just have to shout GG at the end because the game was tight and people were playing well (one team had to win).

I saw someone on Twitter post that people can just shut it about their premises in regs. They're gonna do it cause they want to and everyone needed to stop complaining. I took them on and they said if I didn't find it fun going up against their premade then I should get into a premade. As if that was so easy.

Honestly, this whole thread is one big *********** joke.

If you really have that much of a problem with people forming premades, then maybe you should take a close look in the mirror and face the fact that the problem might be yourself.

I soloqueue a lot, I also occasionally premade and anyone that can go with a premade would be a fool not to.
Why? Because the average player in Regs is a complete bonehead.
The amount of times I've had someone **** over my "Sap caps" isn't even to be mentioned.
But I can tell you with absolute certainty the number would be in the triple zero's.

If the average player in regs wouldn't be so gosh darn aweful, maybe more good players would be willing to queue alone. Tbh, the fact that I mostly play Sin is probably the only reason I still do.
Because if I'd be a Guardian trying to full time soloqueue I'd ragequit PvP itself as well.
You just can't make a big enough difference when the rest of the team is completely unaware of *** to do.


If you can't beat them, join them. If you aren't good enough to join them, work harder. End of story.

This couldn't be more true. There has been more times than I can count that I have been defending the off node in novare with my team having control of south and then nobody stops that 1 person on the other team from capping it completely, even with 6-7 people there. It's astounding. Or when I'm on my healer and I'm the only person trying to stop caps while my dps just go full derp mode and attack some tank that's near the turret and away from the node, completely ignoring any healers or people that are capping. I've also lost count how many dps do less than 1k dps while zerging in mid or deathmatching the entire time, there's usually at least 2-3 every match on JC pub side.

There is little doubt, some simple match making is needed, but will never happen.
Premades should be pitted versus premades not grouped together the fact that wasnt coded into queuing to start with was poor planning. Very few would argue against that other then a few outlier cases and those that dont play for any challenge they just want to pugstomp, which there are more of the latter then they will ever admit on the forums or to themselves.

This all reminds me of Twinks back in the day in WoW. There were a lot that just liked crushing people that stood no chance, yet when they make it Twink vs Twink a lot bailed because they truly werent after competition. The ones that loved competition grouped together to run premade vs premade.

Really though there is nothing better then close games, some of my best memories in PvP across MMOs are with friends in nail biting games. Nothing beats that thrill.

Its too bad most people dont seem to be after that feeling anymore and the Devs have done nothing to help foster those games.

On a side note, I really wish they went through with what they said at the Guild Summit to add solo queue 8v8 ranked where close games were more likely to occur.