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Regs have gone to crap

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DarthRaika
03.08.2017 , 05:35 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Gray View Post
anything can happen in regs, no game is impossible to win thanks to the objectives. just find yourself a friend or two and keep improving.

For those who are moaning about TaS in this thread: facepalm, if you're getting outplayed by them you have to face the fact that you have a long journey ahead of you and you're probably not as good as you think you are.

No we do NOT need matchmaking for regs quit moaning
There is no valid reason why a competitive person would be against basic matchmaking. Maybe you aren't as good as you think you are.

The make a friends argument is not valid. If you are a good player and you team up with other good players then you will be on the sure win side which is just as boring and you will even be contributing to the current problem.

Keep in mind, all I am asking for is the most basic of matchmaking. I realize that BW will never add real matchmaking and most likely won't even add something as simple as I am proposing, however what I am asking for is sorely needed.

I just want the type of matchmaking that tries for several minutes (can even be less than 5) to match a premade vs. a premade. The current system will pop as fast as it can and if basic matchmaking waited even just 30 seconds we'd have more even matches than we do now.

This does not mean all premades vs premades and all pugs vs. pugs. This also does not mean class/role/gear balancing. It is simple, BW could easily do it, and it would only positively benefit people who are even remotely competitive as well as benefit complete noobs.

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DarthRaika
03.08.2017 , 05:39 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by t-darko View Post
To see this, with a diminishing pvp population, is just sad. TRE is the last bastion in Europe, and if you never played on a different server, then you don't know how spoiled you are.

Most often, OP, and certainly even on TRE the best pvp players on the server is the once balancing the scale of victory by what faction they chose to play for the evening, it is as simple as that.

As for matchmaking, five years into the game, the pvp population isn't big enough to support it, some classes would be discriminated on sheer existence as one faction most often have a higher number of healers, by that a consequence would be that healers on 1 faction would get fewer pops.
I see your point about a real matchmaking system and I agree with it but I am asking for something very simple and potentially feasible.

I just want the type of matchmaking that tries for several minutes (can even be less than 5) to match a premade vs. a premade. The current system will pop as fast as it can and if basic matchmaking waited even just 30 seconds we'd have more even matches than we do now.

This does not mean all premades vs premades and all pugs vs. pugs. This also does not mean class/role/gear balancing. It is simple, BW could easily do it, and it would only positively benefit people who are even remotely competitive as well as benefit complete noobs.

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MercenaryPlayer
03.08.2017 , 09:39 PM | #43
Regs have always been crap. Between the que system and the que times......its just always been crap.

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Kyuuu
03.08.2017 , 09:53 PM | #44
And they will continue to go crap so long as BW continues to make warzone only place to get unassembled components.

This probably so they say alot people play wz and like it........ when in reality there forcing.

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mmmbuddah
03.09.2017 , 02:16 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by AlCorazon View Post
Snave keeps telling that he is saint, yet he is the ultimate troll.. who will then go talk to Musco and say that premades are bad for regs pvp ..he doesn't see half the stuff that guild does, Take a Seat can actually just farm pugs at the spawn line....and if they wanted a challenge they would have let em out...but they don't. Why? Cause its fun!

I was begging a premade, of a different guild once, please allow opposing team to at least get down from the spawn, because its just boooring, and they wouldn't listen.

All the bullcrap that there are never double premades of 8 people syncing, is a bunch of bull, neither of the 2 of you, are online 24h to say that it does not happen.

And I don't tell them, that they shouldn't do it, or it is wrong, I am only asking to leave the new people who learn some dignity, because of this a lot of people wouldn't come back to pvp.

How would you feel, if one of the Take a Seat ******s, would cap ur node and laugh their asses off while doing it? Would u return?

All I want is for PvP community not to die out, and behaviour like that will do it!
I play PvP pretty much every day, and I have almost -never- seen a TaS member play alone. It was the same thing with BiJ a year back.
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mmmbuddah
03.09.2017 , 02:19 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by snave View Post
At least I didn't try to dedicate a youtube channel to beating a certain guild and at least I don't ragequit games when I'm against certain guilds despite being in a premade myself.

No one even knows why you're so salty towards TaS, you literally gquit because you said you weren't good enough to play with us. No member had ever said a bad word about you. I tried to help you defend better and you literally made a video about it called "snave is salty" because you didn't want to learn.

But yeah, clearly we're the problem queueing in a premade because our premade is slightly better than your premade. How dare we. Your hypocrisy and idiocy is plain to see.
Gets mad that people insult him, even though they are just stating facts, and then insults them back.....hmmm.....
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Gray
03.09.2017 , 06:40 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthRaika View Post
There is no valid reason why a competitive person would be against basic matchmaking. Maybe you aren't as good as you think you are.

The make a friends argument is not valid. If you are a good player and you team up with other good players then you will be on the sure win side which is just as boring and you will even be contributing to the current problem.

Keep in mind, all I am asking for is the most basic of matchmaking. I realize that BW will never add real matchmaking and most likely won't even add something as simple as I am proposing, however what I am asking for is sorely needed.

I just want the type of matchmaking that tries for several minutes (can even be less than 5) to match a premade vs. a premade. The current system will pop as fast as it can and if basic matchmaking waited even just 30 seconds we'd have more even matches than we do now.

This does not mean all premades vs premades and all pugs vs. pugs. This also does not mean class/role/gear balancing. It is simple, BW could easily do it, and it would only positively benefit people who are even remotely competitive as well as benefit complete noobs.
I can start streaming if you want, to prove you wrong. I'll show you what an army of two can do on TRE

Why I am against match making is because I like when I get those sick odds against me, its makes me adapt and continue to improve. Those cute little premades you are moaning about is the only thing thats close to a challange these days, I also believe that one day when they feel more comfortable as players they might start dropping the tank and healer combo.

The term premade is so out of place you realize this term that you use as an excuse for your loss is false, it's a group of friends who outplays you, just because you are in a premade group dosnt mean that your enemies are doomed.

If you're gonna pull out a defensive card about sympathy for the noobs, advice them to do the same like us old timers did back in the day, STAY IN LOWBIE BRACKET untill they are ready for end game pvp that's just common sense.

BTW I never said I was good or anything, nor did I start a crybaby post on forums starting off with my first 1700 rating chars to get some type of respect from the crowd lol.

the good players dosn't come crying on the forums, they believe in the sound of silence.
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Eastiano
03.09.2017 , 08:00 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by mmmbuddah View Post
I play PvP pretty much every day, and I have almost -never- seen a TaS member play alone. It was the same thing with BiJ a year back.
I'm in take a seat and I always play alone, it takes people to ask me to join to play with em and even then I'm not easily persuaded.
I used to q alone all the time in big in japan too, and in quite a few other guilds.

Premades aren't killing pvp, I mean I like to premade and love it when we get a tas premade against us when im with my ragequit brethren. I'll tell you what is killing pvp... I logged in on my op healer on harbinger the other night, was recieving quite a bit of attention from dps but that's good, butfs my hps and epeen but random guy starts shouting in chat that I'm weak and should ask bioware for buff, anyway I replied I don't know you and don't care what you think and carried on healing. Match ends I get told I'm a noob and only 4m heals, and guy continues to rant on. I think to myself, "I bet I can think of at least 10 different better ways to spend my time right off the top of my head" and log off...

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AllisonLightning
03.09.2017 , 08:12 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Eastiano View Post
I'm in take a seat and I always play alone, it takes people to ask me to join to play with em and even then I'm not easily persuaded.
I used to q alone all the time in big in japan too, and in quite a few other guilds.

Premades aren't killing pvp, I mean I like to premade and love it when we get a tas premade against us when im with my ragequit brethren. I'll tell you what is killing pvp... I logged in on my op healer on harbinger the other night, was recieving quite a bit of attention from dps but that's good, butfs my hps and epeen but random guy starts shouting in chat that I'm weak and should ask bioware for buff, anyway I replied I don't know you and don't care what you think and carried on healing. Match ends I get told I'm a noob and only 4m heals, and guy continues to rant on. I think to myself, "I bet I can think of at least 10 different better ways to spend my time right off the top of my head" and log off...
I had a charmer on the other team rant about my guild and how we're terrible PvP players on my Operative Healer... I healed his would-be kills- I'll deal with some idiot during match but if they continue afterwards, I have other classes and will log off to dodge getting whispered. You want to ignore them but the sensible little voice in your head reminds you they could be on your team next time.

4M heals is great- what's your gear situation? I play with guild mates sometimes, but it's for the company.
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Eastiano
03.09.2017 , 08:33 AM | #50
I don't really have gear, it's a toon I don't play often as I play eu tre mainly, but yeah I'm the same really, I'll q with friends or join a guild (or recruit) because I wanna spend time in game with players of a similar mindset when it comes to pvp