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Tier 4 Gear in Game Update 5.2

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Tier 4 Gear in Game Update 5.2
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03.03.2017 , 08:14 AM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hey folks,

In Game Update 5.2, we will be introducing a new tier of gear to Galactic Command. Tier 4 works a bit differently than other tiers and so we want to provide you with insight about why we’re implementing it. Additionally, we know our social post raised a few concerns and so we want to tackle those first.

Why add 100 more Command Ranks?
The 100 new levels were simply a logical next step for adding Tier 4 gear. However, since it’s already possible to rank up at Command Level 300 indefinitely we decided to take your feedback and keep the current cap. So, starting in 5.2, Command Crates dropped at Level 300 will contain Tier 4 gear (going forward Tier 3 will stop being provided at Rank 299).

Why a new Tier of gear?
We have two main goals in mind for the addition of Tier 4: The first is to act as a benefit for players who put in the time and effort to level up to Command Rank 300. The second goal is giving the most skilled PvE players in SWTOR a worthwhile reward for their coordination and gameplay mastery while also introducing gear drops needed for taking on Tyth in Veteran Mode and other Master Mode Operation bosses. PvP players will also be able to purchase Tier 4 gear for Unassembled Components as they do for other Tiers today.

Now let’s talk about what sets Tier 4 apart from previous gear upgrades. Perhaps the best way to start is to read up on how Command Crates are changing in 5.2.

Tier 4’s biggest difference from previous Tiers is every gear drop from a Command Crate will be Prototype (Blue) Artifact (Purple), or Legendary (Gold); there are no Premium (green) items. Additionally, Prototype quality items in this Tier all have set bonuses. This means every piece of gear coming from a Command Crate in Tier 4 will have a set bonus (where applicable) and be of Prototype or better quality. It’s also important to note every piece of gear in Tier 4 is better than gear from previous tiers, including Tier 3 Legendaries. As Legendary Tier 4 items are best-in-slot, they will remain fairly rare from Command Crates.

Tier 4 is primarily for our most hardcore players who have maxed out their Command Rank and are working on getting best-in-slot gear for their character. Now, with Galactic Command, every player has an opportunity to get a complete set of the best gear offered in SWTOR.

Does this mean Tier 5 and/or more Command Ranks are coming in the future?
We certainly have explored the idea of adding more Command Ranks (as you know) and Tier 5 has been actively discussed as well. While we do have plans for new items in the future, these may or may not come with additional Ranks or through a new Tier level. Once we determine the appropriate delivery mechanism, we’ll let you know, but more than likely that’ll be much later in the year!

Let us know your thoughts, thanks everyone.

-eric
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03.03.2017 , 08:51 AM | #2
So, I'm guessing that the tier 3 crates earnt before 5.2, even after cxp level 300 will still be tier 3 and wont suddenly change into tier 4 when 5.2 comes out... ie: should we save them till 5.2 or keep opening them?

I am two pieces away from full 242 bis and those last couple of bits are being ground out using pvp tokens, so I will be full 242 bis when 5.2 hits and would hate to lose an opportunity to get the jump on tier 4.

And Eric, I know its RNG based and I have been extremely, extraordinarily lucky... but I just have to say after grinding up sets for the last 3 major releases... I have never been this far geared in a new tier so quickly. I don't care what names people might want to call me, I have been lucky, extremely lucky and I have enjoyed the hell out of it... doesn't mean I haven't been frustrated at times... 6x240 chest-pieces last week when all I wanted was a belt was excruciating - especially when I win the random loot in KP too, and that was a 230 chestpiece too! Ironically the 230 is useful to me, the 6 240's are not... cant upgrade them!!

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03.03.2017 , 08:55 AM | #3 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by leehambly View Post
So, I'm guessing that the tier 3 crates earnt before 5.2, even after cxp level 300 will still be tier 3 and wont suddenly change into tier 4 when 5.2 comes out... ie: should we save them till 5.2 or keep opening them?

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Your guess is correct! Continue to open any crates that you earn until that time.

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03.03.2017 , 09:00 AM | #4
What is the reasoning behind even having legendary quality on progression gear? That rating should belong only and ONLY to rare items that require some effort to obtain. Like Crest of the Dread Masters.
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03.03.2017 , 09:05 AM | #5
So basically you are saying that from 5.2 onward there will be a de facto permanent gear disparity between players in pvp with only the most hardcore having the the gear to make the playing field level?
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03.03.2017 , 09:19 AM | #6
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So basically you are saying that from 5.2 onward there will be a de facto permanent gear disparity between players in pvp with only the most hardcore having the the gear to make the playing field level?
Have you seen the changes for Ops? Pretty significant along with the 5.1.2 UA token update. Ok, not all pvp'ers will want to be involved in Ops, but there is easily 1 piece upgrade available for just doing the weekly pvp quest.... more than that and you'll be tearing through those tiers...

This is basically the system now that people wanted... back to the old Ops drops and cxp is now a personal bonus loot system which provides usable and upgradable seed pieces for ALL classes and advanced class.

I sense people either refuse to understand the upgrade process, want to ignore it out of hand "just cos" or simply don't understand it. Put simply, I now prefer the 230 pieces than the 242 pieces... I can gear 1 slot on 1 char with a 242... I can gear 3 slots (230, 236 and 242) on up to 3 separate chars with a single 230 piece.

And this is where and how pvp'ers will be getting their gear.

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03.03.2017 , 09:24 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
SNIP....
Does this mean Tier 5 and/or more Command Ranks are coming in the future?
We certainly have explored the idea of adding more Command Ranks (as you know) and Tier 5 has been actively discussed as well. While we do have plans for new items in the future, these may or may not come with additional Ranks or through a new Tier level. Once we determine the appropriate delivery mechanism, we’ll let you know, but more than likely that’ll be much later in the year!

Let us know your thoughts, thanks everyone.

-eric
For the love of gaming..... Just say yes, there will be a Tier 5. You already know it's going to happen you just don't know when. Stop beating around the bush at this point. A simply yes, Tier 5 is coming will do.
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03.03.2017 , 09:24 AM | #8
Does this mean getting a Tier 4 Command Crate will require the same CXP as filling up rank 300 does right now, so 4,990 CXP? Or will you increase the required CXP with 5.2?

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03.03.2017 , 09:31 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Quraswren View Post
For the love of gaming..... Just say yes, there will be a Tier 5. You already know it's going to happen you just don't know when. Stop beating around the bush at this point. A simply yes, Tier 5 is coming will do.
Why are you even commenting? What the hell good would it do to say that? It's 100% irrelevant right now, and everyone's been giving heat about the current system. Why the hell confirm something they likely have not even confirmed themselves since it's a work in progress? Just another bullet in your gun to shoot in case they revamp something and then you call then disorganised for coming back on their words.

Let it go and think before talking.

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03.03.2017 , 09:34 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by leehambly View Post
So, I'm guessing that the tier 3 crates earnt before 5.2, even after cxp level 300 will still be tier 3 and wont suddenly change into tier 4 when 5.2 comes out... ie: should we save them till 5.2 or keep opening them?

I am two pieces away from full 242 bis and those last couple of bits are being ground out using pvp tokens, so I will be full 242 bis when 5.2 hits and would hate to lose an opportunity to get the jump on tier 4.
If you have full 242 gear, do NOT open any more Tier 3 crates. You'll lose out on the CXP from disintegrating if you disintegrate them before 5.2. The space in your command stash is much more limited than the space in your bank (Cargo Hold), so put all your unopened crates in your bank until 5.2.