Not enough people here played Knights of the Old Republic

I agree, OP. Most of the people complaining on these forums were probably not old enough to play video games back in 2003 when KOTOR came out and won like 9 million gaming awards. This game is very much like KOTOR with group quests, flashpoints, and warzones thrown in. I, for one, do NOT think that's a bad thing as KOTOR was one of the best single-player games ever, imo.

Of course, the size and scale of this effort dwarfs KOTOR.

Bioware did NOT develop KOTOR2. They handed it over to Obsidian. That said, KOTOR2 was a good game, but it was obviously rushed by a company who was literally developing their first game.

Thanks!

While some of the complaints may have merit on some level, there are many where I wonder if the complainer is playing the same game I am. I haven't seen any of the ones hailed as "game-breaking", I have yet to find an empty planet or zone, combat feels great (this is one of my favorite improvements over KotOR and it's turn-based combat).......

I got a huge kick out of some poor "KotOR-noob" on Taris. He started complaining about the planet taking forever and being too long, and immediately 4 people asked "Did you NOT play KotOR?"

I have to agree with those who said if you haven't played KotOR, give it a shot. For sure, the graphics haven't aged well (2003 was a long time ago as far as graphics are concerned), but that game contained 3-4 of my favorite moments in gaming to go along with Darth Malak being every bit as good a villain as Sephiroth was.

I disagree. The amount of crappy variations of Revan or Calo Nord or Bastila show that a lot of people played KOTOR.

Is it a dirty trick to release KOTOR 3-8 spread over the playtime of KOTOR 3-31?

As a Bioware player, that's my only complaint.

Dragon Age 2 seemed like crap, so I didn't play it, but I'm playing this.

I think the game's a triumph, though, in general.

I think I have to disagree with the OP. I played and loved Kotor but you have to realize that this isn't Kotor 3. This is an MMO game and is built as such. While the Kotor additions such as cutscenes, morality choices and companions are nice and are sure to change the meta game, there are also tons of MMO systems in place that if you expect this to be kotor 3, you willl not enjoy.

Sure, right now most of us are in the singleplayer-ish portion of the game where we are leveling up and doing our class missions so this doesn't affect us. However, in a month or two when you have tons of people just hanging around in the space stations looking for heroic flashpoints or waiting for their warzone queue like in that other game.

Luckily, if you want only the singleplayer experience, you can always reroll and the story will be somewhat different.

You know, i never did fully realize this. And i always wondered why i liked the story of KOTOR1 so much better. It just never had occured to me that bioware didn't do the sequel. everything makes sense now

That being said, i enjoyed KOTOR2 alot, i just found the story (especially the ending) to be much weaker.

back on topic, i agree with the OP. and i have no complaints about this game really. Except that i have like 5 different playthroughs planned out because i want to mess with a bunch of different classes/stories

I actually LOVED that KotOR ended up as a MMO. It went kind of like this:

2005: played KotOR, LOVED it; immediately went and got KotOR 2, found it OK but not as good; disappointed Bioware wasn't planning KotOR 3, was instead working on their "own IP", which ended up being Mass Effect
2006-2007: periodic Googling of "KotOR 3" to no avail
2008: SWTOR announced; almost jumped for joy at getting "KotOR 3" as a MMO

I do recall seeing a fair amount of complaining from KotOR die-hards not wanting a MMO, instead wanting another single-player game, but I have a feeling they're happy with what they got!

If it isnt an end game orientated game then it would want to become so very quickly. End game is what keeps people playing for the most part. I'm fairly certain they want to keep their player base for as long as possible, there is only so much rerolling one can do. The very simple fact of the matter is that if they want to keep people they need to staert focusing on end game hardcore.

I played KOTOR my wife didn't with both love SWTOR.

I don't see the complaint.