The poor business model of sub perks.

"Membership has it's privileges"

You had to be subbed at the right time to get the chapter and they pushed it on the website, they tweeted it, they Instagramed it, they Facebooked it, they twitched it, FOR MONTHS!!!!

If you missed it, it your fault.

I missed getting the Founders title by like 5 days, a friend invited me on the last possible day to get the title, but I accepted the 7 day free trial and didn't actually sub till I capped at lvl 15, 5 days later.

I missed it, sux to be me. Every time I see someone fly by with the Founder title, I think "man, if only I'd have subbed up right away..."

But I've never once started a thread about how unfair it is or what a bad business model it is.

To quote from Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang.... "Had your chance, muffled it."

I feel the same way about not being able to get the items from the Collector's Edition vendor. By the time I decided for sure I wanted to play TOR, all the CE copies of the game were long gone from the stores in my area and on Amazon. I dragged my heels, so I missed out.

Do I throw a fit every month or so on the forums because EAWare isn't re-releasing the CE five years later? Nope! I made my choice, so I accept the consequences of that choice. Because I'm an adult.

So my point still stands if anyone is wondering, it is a poor business model from the get-go. It's not about what "I" missed out, which some people seemed to forget, or didn't want to aknowledge. It's about how the business model punishes new subscribers and returning players.
And what Bioware / EA can do to fix that, and grow its playerbase.

Also, the ignore button on the forum is really wonderful

It sure is.

IGNORED.

I very much disagree. It's a fantastic business model to get people to stay subbed. If I was running a busienss like this I'd have created them in as many ways as I could so that the rewards for staying subbed longer and longer got better and better. Marvel heroes has something like rewards for logging in 365 days to years. I'd work on something like that here for subs. The longer you sub the more you get.

You're very muchy mistaken on how good that business model is.

No, you created this because you missed soemthing and you tried to tie in every new gamer as if it helped your case. Sorry but you missed the sale. You missed the option for no interest payments and you missed the rewards for not being around and subbing. No matter how you spin it. You chose to not be a part of the program and so you do not get the rewards of said program.

New gamers can get new rewards and new things as long as they stick around. Seeing what others have entices them to do such but if they choose to leave and no longer be a part of the reward system. to bad thats on them but the business model is fantastic if the rewards and achievements are worth it.

They can implement more of the reward system for being a sub. Encourage gamers to sub and sub longer with better and better rewards for the length of time they are here. Have special rewards for special events. Gamers love rewards and the DVL event proves that by getting getting gamers to do terribly old content once again for the rewards. The content is old and rather uninteresting but the rewards were decent enough to get people to do it.

Sub rewards do the same. Make the rewarads interesting enough and gamers will stay. Put those rewards on a time frame and If you check out, well thats on you. You missed the sale. You missed the reward.

I once missed out on a free year at the "Y" because I was not a member at the time for the contest. It sucked but I didn't pitch a fit because the clearly stated what I had to do to get the reward.

It is a useful tool. Something used to hide opinions that don't agree with you so some can feel better about themselves but I think you know that.

Your point still fails.

Many many many business have membership rewards. They do work and are a great business model.
Starbucks has the Stars program, that gets members more than nonmembers.
Firehouse Subs has the My Points program the gets members more than nonmembers.
Airlines have frequent flyer miles, but only for members not all passengers.
Loyalty programs abound in all industries.


You keep saying it's a bad business model, but businesses disagree. If membership rewards were bad for business, business would stop doing them.

People who can't handle logic and reasoning do find it useful to construct their very own echo chamber!

As far as I can tell this guy's argument boils down to this:

1. Choose not to buy a product when it is available.
2. Demand product a year later when it is no longer available and you never paid for it in the first place.
3. Insist if you are not given something for nothing then you are being 'punished'.
4. ????
5. PROFIT!!!

If you are that into achievements you should have left your sub running.

You were cherry picking subs, only playing when there is new content. Those who didn't cherry pick PAID to keep the game running and got rewarded.

Guess what, everyone is not a winner.

FYI, you can buy the ce on ebay. it is still available.

Too often those are scams, where the code has already been used. I'd rather not risk the money at this point, personally.