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EricMusco
01.31.2017 , 11:06 AM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hey folks,

As we mentioned on the last Producer Live Stream, we are going to be putting Game Update 5.2 on PTS. For now, our plan is that the test server will be closed with the intention of opening up later on. I want to make sure that players have the opportunity to apply to get entry into this closed test, so let's talk about how to do that. Here are the requirements:
  • Being on the closed test server means signing an NDA. You must be willing to sign and abide by that agreement.
  • You must be 18 years or older to be eligible.
  • You must have an active subscription (to access the test server).
  • You must be willing to play and provide feedback.
  • You must be able to post on the forums, if you have been banned from the forums you are ineligible.
  • If you have had a ToS violation within the past 12 months, you are ineligible.
  • Our test server is not localized and our communication around it will be only in English, therefore this opportunity is only open to English speaking players.
Right now we are mainly looking to recruit Guilds and Ops groups to help test Tyth. Early on in the Closed PTS we will only be testing the Operation. We will open up recruiting to individuals and small groups later on if we place the daily area and Master Mode Uprisings on the test server. If your Guild or Op group is interested in applying, please follow these steps:
  • Send an email to swtorsubmissions@swtor.com with the subject line "Closed PTS Application"
  • Include the following information:
    • Your account name.
    • The account name of each Op member/Guild member you wish to bring into the test.
    • Any notes on why you think your Op group or Guild should be accepted into the test.
Again, for this stage we are looking for entire Ops groups/Guilds to test Tyth. Application in no way guarantees entry into the test.

-eric
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01.31.2017 , 11:23 AM | #2
You should take individuals who play ops and ask them their play times and have them form a "PUG" group... I'm sorry but this is a mistake you make OVER AND OVER....

I cannot stress enough that if you want to make the OPS more accessible, you need to see how well an actual PUG can do it. Regular OPS groups and Guilds that play together will come in screaming it's too easy, you will overtune it, and you will lock out whom you said in the stream was your intended target for SM OPS...
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01.31.2017 , 11:30 AM | #3
I'm presuming (hoping) that there will be class changes, both positive and negative in the patch. If so, PvP players should be allowed to test these changes. Class changes are content for PvP. For example you have overturned certain encounters (classes) for PvP and made some trivially easy to defeat.

Test your Ops boss, but offer other long term players an opportunity to opine on changes that affect their play.
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01.31.2017 , 11:31 AM | #4 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by Psychopyro View Post
You should take individuals who play ops and ask them their play times and have them form a "PUG" group... I'm sorry but this is a mistake you make OVER AND OVER....

I cannot stress enough that if you want to make the OPS more accessible, you need to see how well an actual PUG can do it. Regular OPS groups and Guilds that play together will come in screaming it's too easy, you will overtune it, and you will lock out whom you said in the stream was your intended target for SM OPS...
You make a completely fair point. We invite Ops groups of all skill levels from very casual Ops players, to top-end Guilds. We will also invite individuals who are interested in Ops (for the reasons you highlighted), but just not at the very first stages.

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01.31.2017 , 11:36 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
I'm presuming (hoping) that there will be class changes, both positive and negative in the patch. If so, PvP players should be allowed to test these changes. Class changes are content for PvP. For example you have overturned certain encounters (classes) for PvP and made some trivially easy to defeat.

Test your Ops boss, but offer other long term players an opportunity to opine on changes that affect their play.
I presume those changes will come in when they make the PTS open and include the other stuff such as the new daily area. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Eric.
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01.31.2017 , 11:38 AM | #6
Eric, I would love to join in, but unless something major changes this week, my sub is up on the 7th.
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01.31.2017 , 11:40 AM | #7
Sounds good Eric. Am Excited about this. Hopefully quality guilds will be chosen to test the harder content so that it's an actual appropriate challenge and can't be cheesed or trivialized.
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01.31.2017 , 11:40 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
You make a completely fair point. We invite Ops groups of all skill levels from very casual Ops players, to top-end Guilds. We will also invite individuals who are interested in Ops (for the reasons you highlighted), but just not at the very first stages.

-eric
In testing the balance of the Ops you also need to consider the balance of classes so that the fight is not too trivial for the higher parsing classes while the lower parsing ones can still complete it. To be honest the balance needs to be adjusted as the spread is too big. Hopefully you will address class balance in conjunction with this PTS cycle because the state of the classes is not the best at the moment. I know that the PTS is about the new boss, and it should be, but you have to realize that the balance of the classes, dps, tanks, and healers, affect the difficulty of bosses. There is a reason mercs and powertechs were so popular for Ravagers and Temple of Sacrifice. Don't make the same mistakes with regarding to class balance that were made then.

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jozinkopucik
01.31.2017 , 11:54 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
top-end Guilds.
Top what? In game? Now? Who?

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Flying-Brian
01.31.2017 , 12:10 PM | #10
Eric,
Why is a single operation boss being placed under a closed PTS with an NDA? This seems very counterproductive considering the amount of people that have left the game, and the larger amount of people that have a tos violation and are blocked from testing (hint, this is one of those times you want people that have exploited to find the new ones and report them, so they won't go live).

The PTS for this should be an open one (like 2.0 was, where only your secret story stuff was behind the NDA), so you can get as many people testing it as possible to ensure that it will be smooth.