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Galactic Command Gearing Changes, 5.1 and Beyond

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Galactic Command Gearing Changes, 5.1 and Beyond
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01.20.2017 , 01:04 PM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hey folks,

Since the launch of Knights of the Eternal Throne, we have received a lot of great feedback about the gearing changes we made through Galactic Command. In this post, I want to highlight the changes we are making next week. However, we know this will not address all of your concerns, so let’s also talk about additional changes we plan to make.

Our primary goal for Game Update 5.1: Defend the Throne was to allow players to work towards specific pieces of gear through PvP and Operations. Additionally, we wanted to provide a means to help players gear their other Characters. Here are the changes coming next week:
  • New currency: Command Tokens - This currency comes from Command Crates. Each Crate will drop Command Tokens based on the Tier of the Crate (Tier 1 – 5 tokens, Tier 2 – 8 tokens, Tier 3 – 12 tokens). These tokens are a Legacy-wide currency and will be retroactively granted (based on your Command Rank) when 5.1 launches.
  • New currency: Unassembled Components – This currency is a reward for playing Warzones and Galactic Starfighter and can be used to purchase Unassembled Gear Pieces.
  • New currency: Unassembled Gear Piece - These drop from Operation bosses or are purchased with Unassembled Components and can be turned in along with Command Tokens for specific pieces of gear. The last boss of each Operation has a 100% chance to drop Unassembled Gear Pieces (2 pieces for 8-man, 4 pieces for 16-man). Each other boss in an Operation has an increasing chance to drop them (the second boss having a higher chance than the first boss, and so on). Refer to this forum post to see where each item slot will drop.

With these new currencies, players will be able to go to new vendors and purchase specific items. Here are some of the vendor details:
  • Unassembled Component Vendor: On this vendor you can turn in Unassembled Components to purchase a specific Unassembled Gear Piece. You can only purchase Tier 1 Unassembled Pieces in this way. However, you can turn in Tier 1 pieces along with Unassembled Components to upgrade them to Tier 2 and 3 respectively. Refer to this forum post for more details on this vendor.
  • Unassembled Gear Piece Vendor: With this vendor you can turn in one Unassembled Gear Piece for a specific slot (ex: Unassembled Helm Tier 1) along with Command Tokens for that respective piece of gear. Refer to this forum post for more details on this vendor.

The changes listed above are really focused on allowing players to work towards a specific piece of gear. However, we also wanted to allow players to level their alts a bit quicker and so here are some of the changes coming for that:
  • New Character Legacy Perk: Increase all Command XP Earned by 2/4/6/8/10%.
  • New Command XP Boost: This can be purchased with Command Tokens and provides a 15% boost (this boost stacks with the Legacy perk but not the MTX boost). This boost only works per Tier at the following costs:
    • Tier 1 – 20 Command Tokens
    • Tier 2 – 28 Command Tokens
    • Tier 3 – 44 Command Tokens

The above changes are coming next week with Game Update 5.1! Additional concerns you have raised are listed below:

Operations Lacking for CXP
We have been looking at all of the places that players can earn CXP and although our intent is that Operations (especially Veteran/Master) would be the best source of CXP, that is not true currently. We have been working to rebalance the CXP gains of Operations across the board so that they are at least on-par with the best sources of CXP in the game. We plan to include these changes with Patch 5.1.1, but we will give you more information on scheduling once we lock it down.

Galactic Command Gearing Alt-unfriendly
One of the biggest concerns expressed is Galactic Command forces a player into working only on one character. Although that wasn’t our intention, we agree with you. For starters, in 5.1 we are implementing the Legacy-wide currency of Command Tokens, legacy bound boosts you can purchase with Command Tokens, and the legacy perk to speed up leveling. We know that isn’t enough, so we are exploring additional options so that when you are playing any character, there is a way to potentially provide benefit to all other characters in your legacy as well. I have no specifics to share at this time, but I am working to have more details available for our January 26th Livestream.

Command Rank Leveling Speed
We monitor Command Ranks across the game, along with player feedback on the rate at which players are leveling. The Legacy perk and additional boost will help speed up leveling, but we will continue to review. Let’s see how it feels after 5.1. We’ll discuss with you and make further adjustments, if needed.

New Endgame Content
We know addressing the gearing concerns is only half of the equation. Whether it came from the forums, social media, or even focus groups, the feedback is that you want more large group and MMO content such as daily areas and Operations. We will be discussing these very topics in our Livestream next Thursday, January 26, 2017, so come join us!

We want to thank all of your for your continued feedback about Galactic Command. Please keep it coming!

-eric
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ChainLighning
01.20.2017 , 01:17 PM | #2
You actually used the word operations under the title of New End Game Content....impressive...very impressive
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01.20.2017 , 01:24 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
will be retroactively granted (based on your Command Rank)
So players above Command Rank 300 will have their additional effort wasted, e.g. someone who got 310 Command Crates will only get tokens for 300 ranks?

Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Refer to this forum post to see where each item slot will drop.
Refer to this forum post for more details on this vendor.
I'm assuming those are the posts you mentioned at the end that haven't been released yet?

Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
We monitor Command Ranks across the game, along with player feedback on the rate at which players are leveling. The Legacy perk and additional boost will help speed up leveling, but we will continue to review. Let’s see how it feels after 5.1. We’ll discuss with you and make further adjustments, if needed.

New Endgame Content
We know addressing the gearing concerns is only half of the equation. Whether it came from the forums, social media, or even focus groups, the feedback is that you want more large group and MMO content such as daily areas and Operations. We will be discussing these very topics in our Livestream next Thursday, January 26, 2017, so come join us!
Those changes are not nearly enough; for players to stop complaining, the CXP rate needs to be increased 3x to 5x, not just 10-20%.
But I'm waiting for next week's stream, then we will have a better idea of what we can expect in SWTOR.

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Kyrrant
01.20.2017 , 01:27 PM | #4
Okay, some good steps forward (more still needed, but credit where it's due ). Two questions here thought:

1: Command XP Boost: Is that a timed boost or a permanent one, per character? Prices are making me think the latter, but it's not explicit.

2: Has there been any discussion about Disintegration values? 200 CXP seems like a really, really awful amount to get back, if you're not getting actually useful gear items in the packs. This could really stand to be buffed, it'd make the sting of a useless pack a lot softer, but I haven't seen much discussion about it come up.
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BelenUmeria
01.20.2017 , 01:27 PM | #5
The most simple thing you could do would be to change the math under drop rate. You could make it easier to actually get the drops you want.

The non-set bonus gear could be purple just like the old system.

Finally, you could change the gear so that the set-gear dropped OPTIMIZED gear. Then people would not have to pray to get the same drops just to avoid how terrible even your set bonus stats are.

I do not expect you guys to actually fix the system.

So, what are you giving us? We have to PAY either credits or cartel coins PER CHARACTER to improve the GRIND.

You drop a terrible system on the players, then you make us PAY to IMPROVE our CHANCES at CRAPPY GEAR.

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Costello
01.20.2017 , 01:33 PM | #6
It kind of seems like anyone participating in Galactic Command now is going to have to grind significantly more than people that participate next week and both groups are likely going to have to grind more for the same rewards than someone else who particpates in a couple of months when Galactic Command XP is increased further.

So maybe crazy but isn't this suggesting if you want to maximum gear for the least effort your best off waiting 3 or so months when the rewards will be increased as it becomes apparent that 1000 hours of grinding for gear that you wont need for any future story content isn't really much fun . Maybe even leave it a year when I suspect a rank 300 token will be on sale much as the level 65 character token is now.

In short I'm not really sure how the wait and see approach is really helping many people that are playing now. Not to mention the proposed working towards gear seems really good for PvP (if your a pvper or don't mind sitting in the corner) but for PvE seems to require you to complete the hardest content to get the specific gear piece you need to complete the hardest content. Which if you can complete it already you probably don't need the gear, while doing 5 year old ops is unlikely to be much fun at this point.

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01.20.2017 , 01:34 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Jerba View Post
Did you forget to link to another thread?
Maybe he meant "thread". If you didn't read the PS it looks like that information will be added later:
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
PS - I will be making a few posts later today or Monday which contain a more detailed breakdown of how much currency you will earn, how much things cost, and where to get specific drops from Operations.
Well it seems to take some of the sting out of GC. Still not at all happy about it. Will have to play with the numbers to see if it drops below players' pain thresholds.

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Elssha
01.20.2017 , 01:40 PM | #8
You've no idea how happy you'll make people now that you said new ops >: D


One Question; will we be able to upgrade gear via PvP shards that we got from GC crates or Ops unassembled pieces?


Also, will the HM/NiM Drops be 236/242 golds or 234/240 purples?

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01.20.2017 , 01:41 PM | #9
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This currency is a reward for playing Warzones and Galactic Starfighter and can be used to purchase Unassembled Gear Pieces.
Thank you for listening to our plea for starfighter to also grant additional CXP rewards along with the rest of the game's content.

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01.20.2017 , 01:43 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post

Operations Lacking


All I got was this
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