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Narrowsws
01.14.2017 , 03:07 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Radzkie View Post
From my experience White Knights don't know the difference. Anything negative = "hate" to them. Dunno if the OP is one.

Edit: by the way, im am not a fanboy anymore. I could be considered a hater or whatever because I've lost faith in the devs.
That's not true. They're are valid things to complain about. Maybe its the language and tone, for example:

Person: Oh I hate the game..why didn't the Devs do what I asked..now they're game will be a flaming burn out. I will write every few days how game is dying, even though they gave us chapters.

People seem to get really really carried away when talking about the future. Of course, there are valid things to discuss. Like how PVP needs more content more often or end game raiding situation or even RNG though its random.

People seem to really get caught up sometimes I think I'm reading a horror story novel.

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01.14.2017 , 03:13 PM | #22
Wait... whats not true in my post?
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01.14.2017 , 03:15 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Radzkie View Post
Wait... whats not true in my post?
I don't mean you when I say this person. I'm just making up a random post. Most of the time I silently read the forums, its just this hostile reaction. It's not just disagreeing with someone. It's going further. It's claiming game will fail. It's just very very detailed explaining how game will crash and burn and predictions for the future. All doom and gloom.

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01.14.2017 , 03:17 PM | #24
Oh, you meant you're not a white knight and you see the difference. I understand now.
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01.14.2017 , 03:21 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Radzkie View Post
Oh, you meant you're not a white knight and you see the difference. I understand now.
Of course. There are very very valid things to discuss. When I first came to this game. Tons of stuff like graphics, interface it, The constant nerfing and buffing. There are almost an endless list. I could make complaints about. I do understand difference "voicing a complaint" to "hostile ************"

I suppose, I am having fun with the chapters. I just don't get why some people are not more happy. Those chapters are a ton of new content. I never played. Yes like end game raiding could use a major boost.

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Xo-Lara
01.14.2017 , 03:42 PM | #26
See, that's what I meant earlier. You are looking at it from only your perspective. "I'm having fun so others should be to." There are people who dislike the whole concept pf chapters, never had interest in them, like the idea but hated the execution, spacebar through all the cutscenes in game, etc. Your having fun doesn't change or even influence those experiences and it doesn't invalidate them either.

I like the statement's from another game developer that was shared in another thread. Regarding player criticism he said:
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the symptoms described will almost always be right, and the diagnosis will often be wrong.
To related it to what we are talking about, a player saying their is no new content is right and wrong. They are right in that for players who play like them, there is no new content: symptom. However, they are wrong in saying that there is no new content period: diagnosis.

It's not that the Devs haven't done anything; they haven't satisfied the needs of that particular playstyle. However, those players are dead on accurate about devs not satisfying the need of that playstyle. They wouldn't have their fur rubbed backwards if they were satisfied.
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01.14.2017 , 03:42 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Narrowsws View Post
I suppose, I am having fun with the chapters. I just don't get why some people are not more happy. Those chapters are a ton of new content. I never played. Yes like end game raiding could use a major boost.
I *********** loved the chapters, but I blew through them quickly. There's not that much for someone like myself who loves them and will play for a couple hours at a time.

The two other new things are uprisings and the gearing system. The gearing is terrible for vets, and uprisings are short and few.

Plus if you compare SWTOR to FF14 it's frustrating for some people. Both are AAA MMO's, but FF14 releases content for ALL parts of it's game consistently(including LARGE amounts of story at once), whereas SWTOR releases content for only parts of it's game. Meaning FF14 patches and expansions are much, much bigger than SWTOR's.
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01.14.2017 , 03:46 PM | #28
There is also the issue of SWTOR building new features centered on running old content such as Galactic Command and Light vs Dark. This burns some people who are tired of doing that old content already.
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01.14.2017 , 03:54 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Xo-Lara View Post
There is also the issue of SWTOR building new features centered on running old content such as Galactic Command and Light vs Dark. This burns some people who are tired of doing that old content already.
I can totally understand that. I suppose from my view. I haven't done any chapters for several months. I was surprised honestly they had this much content. I suppose my feeling on story and choice is different someone focused on just end game raiding. I do like how they do the "Light side is stronger" much of these stuff including "commands" didn't exist a year or two ago.

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01.14.2017 , 04:00 PM | #30
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There is also the issue of SWTOR building new features centered on running old content such as Galactic Command and Light vs Dark. This burns some people who are tired of doing that old content already.
Well it's not just that but many of BW's previous additions to the game encouraged people to play alts. With the new Galactic Command and the RNG crates the game has become a lot less alt friendly.

The new system pushes people to play a single toon a lot more since new gear, aside from buying it off the GTN, only comes from the crates. So people with 5, 10, or more alts, and there are some out there, are suddenly forced to play a single character.

I think BW's new business strategy is focused on finding the longest possible grind there is.