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December Producer Livestream Wrap-up

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December Producer Livestream Wrap-up
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darpaX
12.15.2016 , 05:18 PM | #11
Can you clarify what command tokens are a little more? Are they used exclusively for Op/Pvp gear? Or do they have other uses? Can we trade them in / disintegrate them for CXP?

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Aowin
12.15.2016 , 05:20 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by teclado View Post
So if I'm reading this right, the only way to get tier 3 gear with PVE will be either the current Command Crate system OR NiM (Master Mode) operations. But if you have a certain valor amount, you can go to the pvp vendor and trade in your tier 2 unassembled piece + tokens = tier 3 piece.

So even if you do nothing but operations, if your valor meets the requirement, you could still take advantage of the pvp vendor. Take hard mode (veteran) operation boss unassembled tier 2 drops to the pvp vendor, add in some tokens, and out comes tier 3. You won't have to do Master Mode.
That might work for a main, but the thing about progression raiding is many run through content with multiple alts. I'm also expecting the valor requirement to be rather high (70+) to prevent raiders from skipping Master Mode Operations.

BioWare is essentially making gear progression work as they did previously in both systems. The main difference is that it's the same gear, so PvPers are going to gear faster due to the nature of gear being the same. In other words, there is an incentive for doing all endgame content and not just focusing on one aspect.
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teclado
12.15.2016 , 05:21 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by darpaX View Post
Can you clarify what command tokens are a little more? Are they used exclusively for Op/Pvp gear? Or do they have other uses? Can we trade them in / disintegrate them for CXP?
I watched the stream, and they were pretty clear on this, so I will answer for you.

Command tokens are just a currency. You cannot disintegrate them or convert them to CXP in any way. Unassembled tier N (N=1, 2, 3) gear piece + tokens (amount TBD) = tier N gear piece.

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SerraShar
12.15.2016 , 05:21 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Aowin View Post
If you wanted to be guaranteed gear via PvE, yes you have to run operations.
I though the gear come from them Boxes ?! So what give.....
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Andryah
12.15.2016 , 05:26 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by teclado View Post
Unassembled tier N (N=1, 2, 3) gear piece + tokens (amount TBD) = tier N gear piece.
Translation... we are moving from single grind to DOUBLE grind. Grind crates for tokens, and grind OPs for a chance to roll on an unassembled gear piece. Depending on the costs at the vendor, this may be better or worse..... very much TBD.

The vendor path is a good one as it provides certainty of effort (since you can see on the vendor in advance what you need). However it really should be a reputation style vendor in my view, where GC level progressively unlocks access to purchase specific items. Double grinding makes little sense, unless they significantly reduce the GC grind and no indications of this so far.
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RiVaN_
12.15.2016 , 05:27 PM | #16
SWTOR Dev Team.

Why do you insist on reinventing the wheel?
It feels like you are doing far more work than you need to do by trying to, yet again, create a new gearing system...
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teclado
12.15.2016 , 05:28 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
Nothing in that stream led me to believe that BWA has really listened to the concerns of the players.
They are still primarily concerned with protecting their egos by retaining RNG/GC in any way they can.

Nothing mentioned addresses the concerns of players wanting to gear up multiple Alts to fill different roles for their guilds.

Nothing mentioned addresses the concerns of casual players who don't (for whatever reason) engage in Ops/WZ - these people are still being thrown under the RNG Grind-Fest Bus.

Nothing in that stream gives me any confidence re-subbing would be an appropriate use for my money.

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Here's how you gear up alts. Run operations on your main, get unassembled drops. Use tokens from any character + unassembled pieces, take them to vendor, get piece. Pull armor / mod / enh from that piece, put it in a legacy gear piece, send to alt.

Alternatively, run warzones on your main. Get unassembled components. Turn unassembled components into vendor and get unassembled gear piece. Turn in unassembled gear piece + tokens in to vendor, get gear piece. Once again do the legacy gear thing to send stuff to your alt.

If you refuse to do any pvp or ops, then yes: you will have to endure the RNG grind as it is right now.

For me, I'm quite happy. Good solution, BW. It's certainly not as easy to get pvp gear as it was in 4.0, but beggars can't be choosers I guess. This is enough to keep me subbed.

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FlavivsAetivs
12.15.2016 , 05:29 PM | #18
Hey Eric,

Will the following bugs be fixed in Game Update 5.1?

1. Class Stances are doubling on certain classes.

2. GSF is not rewarding levelling XP or credits above level 65.

Thank You,
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Aowin
12.15.2016 , 05:30 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by SerraShar View Post
I though the gear come from them Boxes ?! So what give.....
Gear still drops randomly in crates. Ops are just a way to guarantee pieces you want.
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SerraShar
12.15.2016 , 05:31 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Aowin View Post
Gear still drops randomly in crates. Ops are just a way to guarantee pieces you want.
So....the PVE still grind ? So what did they change ? add more gear in OP and PVP ?
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