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Merc super cancer 5.0!!!!!!

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Merc super cancer 5.0!!!!!!

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mmmbuddah
12.12.2016 , 04:15 PM | #241
Honestly every class is pretty much invincible for a time now, except for maybe PT, mercs got a ridiculous heal, snipers got good heals now, this is no worse than juggernauts, except it is ranged.
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Severith
12.12.2016 , 04:26 PM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by mmmbuddah View Post
Honestly every class is pretty much invincible for a time now, except for maybe PT, mercs got a ridiculous heal, snipers got good heals now, this is no worse than juggernauts, except it is ranged.
Which is 100 times worse. You can root or slow a jugg to shut down his dps. There's no resolve bar that builds for either of those. He'll burn his heal to survive in order to dps later. You can't shut down a merc's dps by rooting or slowing him. It doesn't effect his dps at all.

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Transcendent
12.12.2016 , 05:41 PM | #243
Quote: Originally Posted by QuiveringPotato View Post
Yeah, and I can still die with 70% damage reduction up on my operative. Sometimes you get killed. Deal with it.

DCDs this powerful aren't supposed to exist on a class with some of the best single target burst in the game.
It could be completely worse. Everyone could be running around using Medicine Operatives right now, which are broken as hell. Have you tried to kill one of them lately?
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ShadessaWayland
12.12.2016 , 10:35 PM | #244
sorry to say but i see more snipers and gunslingers in pvp then merc or mandos

ad least so 3 to 4 off them and trust me there more pain to deal with then a merc or mando
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ShadessaWayland
12.13.2016 , 02:46 PM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
When were juggs ever invincible? When could juggs light you up from 30m away? When could Juggs kite you and kill you before you ever even got close to them?

I don't recall that EVER happening in this game.

As a matter of fact, when was the last time a melee was dominant in this game, in any area?
merc can never beat a good jugg player how hard he try

jugg will always be king in pvp you just fight a iron wall with insane damage output

and always in wz jugg are mostly nr1

like i said bevore jugg can benefit from there tank tree and wears dps gear that make him a very tanky and hard hitting class a merc can wear tank gear but its no use to him and he cant wear a shield gen
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teclado
12.13.2016 , 02:54 PM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadessaWayland View Post
merc can never beat a good jugg player how hard he try

jugg will always be king in pvp you just fight a iron wall with insane damage output

and always in wz jugg are mostly nr1

like i said bevore jugg can benefit from there tank tree and wears dps gear that make him a very tanky and hard hitting class a merc can wear tank gear but its no use to him and he cant wear a shield gen
Hrnnhhh? (that's my best approximation of the sound I made when I read what you wrote).

A merc can never beat a good jugg player? Are we playing the same game? Was this a typo? Surely you meant that a good jugg player can never beat any average Merc, because that is much closer to the truth.

Juggs are pretty downright awful in pvp right now. Jugg and PT are probably the worst in pvp. Not because of anything that happened to Juggs, but because of everything that was given to many other classes. Mercs are now tankier than Juggs. If you've played any solo ranked in 5.0, you've probably noticed that everybody wants to focus the Jugg now.

In 5.0, I have the following to level 70 and have played at least 10 warzones with each: Merc, Mara, Jugg. I and everyone else must be the world's worst Jugg players, and I must simultaneously be an awesome Merc player if Juggs are better than Mercs. Keep on playing your Jugg if you really think it's better than a Merc, and I'll keep netting you, kiting and shooting you out of melee range, and healing to full three times.

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Vember
12.13.2016 , 03:23 PM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadessaWayland View Post
merc can never beat a good jugg player how hard he try

jugg will always be king in pvp you just fight a iron wall with insane damage output

and always in wz jugg are mostly nr1

like i said bevore jugg can benefit from there tank tree and wears dps gear that make him a very tanky and hard hitting class a merc can wear tank gear but its no use to him and he cant wear a shield gen
The only Jugg spec that isn't glass right now is Immortal, and they just don't have the damage output that people like to claim they do.

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Transcendent
12.13.2016 , 05:15 PM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
The only Jugg spec that isn't glass right now is Immortal, and they just don't have the damage output that people like to claim they do.
4.0 was a good time for them. 5.0? Not so much. Welcome to expansions 101, where everything gets tweaked and new a new meta occurs. Well.... aside from Sorcs who had it easy for ages.
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ShadessaWayland
12.13.2016 , 09:28 PM | #249
Quote: Originally Posted by teclado View Post
Hrnnhhh? (that's my best approximation of the sound I made when I read what you wrote).

A merc can never beat a good jugg player? Are we playing the same game? Was this a typo? Surely you meant that a good jugg player can never beat any average Merc, because that is much closer to the truth.

Juggs are pretty downright awful in pvp right now. Jugg and PT are probably the worst in pvp. Not because of anything that happened to Juggs, but because of everything that was given to many other classes. Mercs are now tankier than Juggs. If you've played any solo ranked in 5.0, you've probably noticed that everybody wants to focus the Jugg now.

In 5.0, I have the following to level 70 and have played at least 10 warzones with each: Merc, Mara, Jugg. I and everyone else must be the world's worst Jugg players, and I must simultaneously be an awesome Merc player if Juggs are better than Mercs. Keep on playing your Jugg if you really think it's better than a Merc, and I'll keep netting you, kiting and shooting you out of melee range, and healing to full three times.
but its all about team work if you cant do that you beter quit this game
if you think merc is so OP then you play it wrong

but atm am more woried about sniper/gunslinger then any trooper/merc ore jugg

ad redeclipse i see many play that class now and so 3 a 4 in a row are a pain to deal with
with a saga/sorc close to them to heal them and so on

then try to get close to them you mostly dead XD
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CrazyOldMystic
12.14.2016 , 12:56 AM | #250
So far I am not hearing much substance. My first main was commando, gunnery at launch. The off heals got nerfed, almost every class had a way of getting out of electro net and take zero damage, blitz was removed, plasma gernade nerfed into the ground along with sticky grenade, and lets not forget all too often people can walk right through a cryo grenade. So what exactly did they do that has all you guys raging? I have been on my Sith Jugg this time around because that is what I wanted to do for fun. I am carious as to what was the ultimate evil that the devs did?