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Merc super cancer 5.0!!!!!!

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Merc super cancer 5.0!!!!!!

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Nightkin
12.11.2016 , 02:46 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Transcendent View Post
This post sums it up nicely. I've had some nice fights versus other Mercs / Mandos, everyone else who is used to roflstomping the class is simply going to have to learn how to play their class properly versus Merc / Mandos.

You can counter them, it's not all about "derp dps the Merc / Mando and they insta die" now. I mean, who seriously continues to dps the Merc / Mando with the great big glowing shield up? You know you're healing us if we survive your burst right? Right?
Heh, you already know the answer but...ah yeah, intelligent sarcasm is rarely worth it when talking with the great masses
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Transcendent
12.11.2016 , 02:54 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightkin View Post
Heh, you already know the answer but...ah yeah, intelligent sarcasm is rarely worth it when talking with the great masses
Sadly that's a given.
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Severith
12.11.2016 , 03:10 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightkin View Post
That was almost funny, but seriously how about a Free Learn to play pill instead? Would brighten my day and make these forums so much more enjoyable.
You've already helped prove in my thread that the only thing a veng jugg can do against a merc is not use their main abilities (impale and shatter). That was literally your solution in the thread.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...=905653&page=4

I guess to you learning to play means no one playing veng jugs. Because a merc spent an utility point.

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Glower
12.11.2016 , 03:11 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by Transcendent View Post
great big glowing shield up?
btw... I rarely see this effect inside warzones even when i get my damage reflected. Maybe it is bugged somehow?
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Nightkin
12.11.2016 , 03:39 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Glower View Post
btw... I rarely see this effect inside warzones even when i get my damage reflected. Maybe it is bugged somehow?
Might be a issue with your graphic settings?
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Nightkin
12.11.2016 , 03:42 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Severith View Post
You've already helped prove in my thread that the only thing a veng jugg can do against a merc is not use their main abilities (impale and shatter). That was literally your solution in the thread.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...=905653&page=4

I guess to you learning to play means no one playing veng jugs. Because a merc spent an utility point.
No i simply told you how to limit the healing through mercs cooldown by not going HAM with the dots. And even IF the dots are applied theres no chance they tick 15 times during the duration of the merc shield, wich means that YOU can most certainly adapt to the situation by limiting your dmg output against that particular player for a few seconds.

How on gods green earth is that a difficult concept to comprehend?!
Seriously you people give me a severe headache by your constant ignorance of game mechanics.
Whaaaaambulance at your service

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Severith
12.11.2016 , 04:12 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightkin View Post
No i simply told you how to limit the healing through mercs cooldown by not going HAM with the dots. And even IF the dots are applied theres no chance they tick 15 times during the duration of the merc shield, wich means that YOU can most certainly adapt to the situation by limiting your dmg output against that particular player for a few seconds.

How on gods green earth is that a difficult concept to comprehend?!
Seriously you people give me a severe headache by your constant ignorance of game mechanics.
Once again, you failed at reading and comprehension. The dots are what prevent Intimidating Roar (soft stun) from being used on a merc. (You failed to understand the point, again) The dots don't trigger the healing, at all. (You failed to understand the healing mechanic of the energy shield utility) The problem was that resource generation for knights and warriors do trigger the healing, so when other classes can break los and regain force, or heat, or energy, the jugs and maras do not have that option.

You constantly complain about other people not getting the mechanics, and then you post another complaint in which you demonstrate that you clearly don't understand it either. I'm going to have to lump you in with all those players who don't get why mercs suddenly heal to full. You're that kind of stupid, just on the other side of the argument.

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Nightkin
12.11.2016 , 04:18 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Severith View Post
Once again, you failed at reading and comprehension. The dots are what prevent Intimidating Roar (soft stun) from being used on a merc. (You failed to understand the point, again) The dots don't trigger the healing, at all. (You failed to understand the healing mechanic of the energy shield utility) The problem was that resource generation for knights and warriors do trigger the healing, so when other classes can break los and regain force, or heat, or energy, the jugs and maras do not have that option.

You constantly complain about other people not getting the mechanics, and then you post another complaint in which you demonstrate that you clearly don't understand it either. I'm going to have to lump you in with all those players who don't get why mercs suddenly heal to full. You're that kind of stupid, just on the other side of the argument.
First you say you cant use dots , then it's no worrys with the dots. Tell me whats preventing you from stopping to attack or GAWD i dunno, popping a defensive of your own to prevent the merc from dpsing you while his shield is up? It is so very easy to counter and yet you just say no no no, you are a baddie while yourself cant come up with a single solution except hitting the merc while his shield is up.

L2P for the last time
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Severith
12.11.2016 , 04:32 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightkin View Post
First you say you cant use dots , then it's no worrys with the dots. Tell me whats preventing you from stopping to attack or GAWD i dunno, popping a defensive of your own to prevent the merc from dpsing you while his shield is up? It is so very easy to counter and yet you just say no no no, you are a baddie while yourself cant come up with a single solution except hitting the merc while his shield is up.

L2P for the last time
I didn't say I couldn't use dots. I said that I had to use dots because those are tied into vengeance's main abilities. (You failed to read and comprehend.) I never said the dots were not a worry, since they prevent the use of the soft stun. (You told us to use awe to counter it, but your way wouldn't work) Stopping the attack, for 12 seconds, is exactly what you have to do. Meanwhile, one of the best dps classes in the game is going to be killing you.

There isn't a viable solution for a veng jugg to use when a merc flicks up energy shield. That's how powerful it is. That 1 utility point would win a 1v1 fight for a merc everytime.

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Nightkin
12.11.2016 , 04:33 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Severith View Post
I didn't say I couldn't use dots. I said that I had to use dots because those are tied into vengeance's main abilities. (You failed to read and comprehend.) I never said the dots were not a worry, since they prevent the use of the soft stun. (You told us to use awe to counter it, but your way wouldn't work) Stopping the attack, for 12 seconds, is exactly what you have to do. Meanwhile, one of the best dps classes in the game is going to be killing you.

There isn't a viable solution for a veng jugg to use when a merc flicks up energy shield. That's how powerful it is. That 1 utility point would win a 1v1 fight for a merc everytime.
No, the problem is that ability is enough to win against YOU, you have proven to be unable to adapt to the situation, End of story
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