SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

Its a comparison of products...which is what SWTOR vs. WoW is. Whether its a car, a TV or whatever else, the better product, given an equal price wins. We may debate it but we don't yet know who will win. WoW has won vs. many competitors so far and BW is certainly extremely aware of it.

I'm tired of WoW too but I concede that it has some features that are superior especially the gameplay at this stage which to me, is the most important part of gaming. SWTOR isn't there which is a huge concern at this point.

You're talking like your opinion was fact. Too bad it isn't.

If you think delay is "worse than any mmorpg" you obviously know nothing on this market. Maybe you should go back to wow, since quite evidently your viewpoint is too restricted to be able to accept anything different.

Which is typical of wow players, mind you.

Just cause you dont see it doesnt mean that this gam is missing lots of things and gameplay+action delay prevents this game to have any serious PVE or PVP endgame.
AH is worse than in WOW 7 years ago, UI looks like WOWs basic UI long time ago, graphics aint much better, world seems dead, downgrading from open world to instancd one etc. All isssues has been discussed lots on various threads and untill they fix em, wouldnt talk about better quality over quantity against WOW 2011, not even 2004.

Soory, worse than any other MMORPG since WOW. Or any other game of any genre since 1995.

Whatever you say mate... all my moves work perfectly.... try getting better internet, or a computer that was made after 2000.

All the "100s of bug complaints" , all the "minor missing features that I cant live without" complaints are just sad.

People are right to say we should be comparing SWTOR to Catacalysm ... Cata had more fun quests but with no context, questing in SWTOR consists of good context ... but the same old Grind 30x "bonus" mobs and plant items... kill a boss... boring... but quite enjoyable due to context.... they are polar opposites in this department..... im hopeing SWTOR can make its newer planets' quests as fun as CATA ... then it will be leagues ahead of WoW in that department.

Same is said for the rest, those of you saying this game is inferior ... and that we shouldnt take 7 years into account... are any of you actual software developers let alone anything else???

You realize every new engine, every new designed game regaurdless of "successful blue-prints" still takes years of feedback and refinement?

Absolutely pathetic.... this game IS high quality ... its just not bloody 100% as refined as WoW.... but it will be. like someone else said, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE IF YOU LOVE WOW SO MUCH ... oh right? because despite good gameplay and endgame ... YOUR BORED OF THE SAME TIRED GAME. - well instead of craving the same thing with lightsabres go play a different genre, you clearly dont want this one anymore.

Apples and oranges are products. It doesn't make them comparable.

Comparing completely different markets is a logical fallacy, as you're assuming similar results with completely different premises. The MMORPG market is completely unique. It has completely different inner workings and development cycles as opposed to any other market.

Besides, it gets even more illogical when the comparison is made only on what SWTOR doesn't have, while what WoW doesn't have is ignored.

It shows a lot on how logical this comparison is, and the answer is "completely illogical".

If you expect a MMORPG at launch to have all the feature of a game with several years more in development, you have no touch with reality. Sorry.

I don't really care if SWTOR is better than WoW was 7 years ago. I really don't care if SWTOR will be a great game 7 years from now. What I care is how SWTOR, today, compares to its competition.

Did you play them all?

Quite obviously you didn't. Ooops, what is this crahsing sound I hear? Must be your little card castle that has just collapsed.

At what point did I suggest that WoW and EVE are competing for the same customers? I used EVE as an example of a game that it *would* be silly to compare to WoW as they are very different products. You are attempting to argue *for* a point that I made. On the subject of WoW Vs TOR. The point of them competing for the same customer stands no matter how many years WoW has had to develop. That aside TOR is entering the arena at a much later date and should have learnt from what WoW and other MMOs are currently doing. You can call me illogical and ignorant all you like but it’s not going to make it true, I would say however you are being more than a little naive.

For the record I’m really enjoying TOR. I just think it’s missing a lot of features that should have made it into launch considering the development time.

Another 1 in 1000 who understands the struggle that so few seem to grasp.

(I am not being sarcastic and agree with you)