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Soljin
11.01.2016 , 05:40 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Jherad View Post
This forum has been largely ignored since not long after launch. People have tried constructively posting, begging, pleading, cajoling and crying. There is only one constant - tumbleweeds. We really only post in this forum for the entertainment value and to talk amongst ourselves.

Quite frankly I'm surprised a little cargo cult religion hasn't sprung up here.
They listen to be fair they just don't interact with the forum when they use an idea...you just see it spring up a couple years later and generally less cool than the forum version.....Rocket out comes to mind....
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mhobin
11.01.2016 , 06:20 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Soljin View Post
Honestly the gear needs to stay in PvP per 5.0...what they need to do is level the playing field for WZs via a preset stat template for each class or a Bolster of some sort.

If you completely remove gear from PvP then you completely cut it off from the rest of the game......PvP needs to produce CXP for gearing and to advance players that do PvE along with PvP.

If you are able to load into a WZ with a Stat preset based on your discipline this would solve the gearing problem...just have a few templates for each class favoring Alacrity vs. Crit. vs power etc....Player chooses the template they want to load in with and you have a level playing field.....Everyone using one of three stat templates....

Something like this would remedy the PvP gear deficit issue while still allowing PvP/PvE mix players to advance their gear for PvE and World PvP.

Basically everything stays the same but your gear is over written by a generic template for WZ's......

No idea who to credit this idea to...Its not mine just don't recall the first time I read about it.
Good point, I was thinking more for myself then the community as a whole. Removing gear would isolate PvP. I might have no need for gear but others do.

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Jherad
11.01.2016 , 06:33 PM | #53
Isolating PvP from gear certainly wouldn't be unprecedented in MMOs, and would probably encourage more people to queue. At this point it absolutely couldn't hurt.
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mhobin
11.01.2016 , 07:06 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Jherad View Post
Isolating PvP from gear certainly wouldn't be unprecedented in MMOs, and would probably encourage more people to queue. At this point it absolutely couldn't hurt.
I don't know if it would. The gear barrier for entry in PvP has been low for a while.

I think eliminating gear would make the quality of games better, but anyone who wants to play PvP has already given it go.

They are trying to market this game for players to try a bit of all game types. That is all they can do with very little new endgame content.

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Rion_Starkiller
11.01.2016 , 08:59 PM | #55
Pvp has been dead.
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I believe he's quoting a frequent contributor to these forums. His name is Strawman.
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ajiehblr
11.02.2016 , 12:28 AM | #56
In 5.0 only PvP daily and weekly quest will grant you command points not every WZ or Arena. They said best way to lvl-up would be Master PvE content and Ranked but in order to complete Ranked daily and weekly you need to win so it's already disadvantage for PvP people and will bring even more wintrading to ranked. Also gearing up in Ranked isn't an option as you already need the best gear to participate in Ranked.

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TrixxieTriss
11.02.2016 , 01:23 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by ajiehblr View Post
In 5.0 only PvP daily and weekly quest will grant you command points not every WZ or Arena. They said best way to lvl-up would be Master PvE content and Ranked but in order to complete Ranked daily and weekly you need to win so it's already disadvantage for PvP people and will bring even more wintrading to ranked. Also gearing up in Ranked isn't an option as you already need the best gear to participate in Ranked.
I missed the bit where they said it doesn't include points for just doing the WZs. That really sucks. I hate pve stuff, especially as it's so easy and repetitive after you mastered dynamic pvp.
Basically making pvpers play pve is not the way to make them stay. This is now the reverse of what they did to the pve guys when they made them pvp to get pve stuff. And we all know how well that turned out. When will the Bioware Devs learn from their "own" mistakes. I'm sure they're performance reviews aren't based on customer satisfaction.
If this gearing thing allows casual pve guys to jump ahead of me in gear for pvp, I'm going to be rightly pissed. I only pvp and I do many hours every day. If some fly by night casual pver can out gear me for the only part of the game I play, then that will put the nail in the coffin for me.

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11.02.2016 , 04:02 AM | #58
The point is: there are many,many people out there, with jobs,kids, family,pvp fans, that can only play 2-3 hours a daily...u cant force them to play pve other then the story mode! They dont want to play PVE.If u ask me, the average age of the players is around 27-30 years old, people that dont have time to spend countless hour doing raids,ops,looooong S&V and TfB. Now they pobably they will spam Tobboro Courtyard,8sm,8hm,16 sm,16 hm, maybe Nim.... Till now, i was doing my wz dailies ,weeklies and in few days gain full gear ready to augment and jump in ranked.From now on.....
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Soljin
11.02.2016 , 07:07 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Jherad View Post
Isolating PvP from gear certainly wouldn't be unprecedented in MMOs, and would probably encourage more people to queue. At this point it absolutely couldn't hurt.

It may not be unprecedented but the current MMO's that are doing well have integrated PvE and PvP gear not removed it.....I can think of two both of which are better known for PvP than this game.
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Soljin
11.02.2016 , 07:08 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by ajiehblr View Post
In 5.0 only PvP daily and weekly quest will grant you command points not every WZ or Arena. They said best way to lvl-up would be Master PvE content and Ranked but in order to complete Ranked daily and weekly you need to win so it's already disadvantage for PvP people and will bring even more wintrading to ranked. Also gearing up in Ranked isn't an option as you already need the best gear to participate in Ranked.
Where did this get said? I never came across Dailies and weeklies only giving CXP for WZs....
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