Sell Arma Rasa/HK-55 recovery mission for 2- 5$ on web as digital extension of Kotfe.

Curses - you've foiled the Armchair Lawyer with your facts and logic once again.

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To get HK-55 you had to be a subscriber on January 11, 2016. An active subscription for 1 Month (Billed every 30 days) is $14.99 (12.99€). Now you want to get HK-55 for a ridiculous payment of 2$? Come on ...

I'm not shure you do. Being a subscriber for the whole period is not only paying $107,93 - 119,92 (92,93 - 103,22€) - depending on payment method - but also staying loyal to a game which had (and has) good times and bad times. To me, 'Shroud of Memory' is a reward for that loyalty, not for my payments. You want to get that bonus chapter for one active subscription for example, no matter how long that subscription is? Shame on you ...

Exactly that. The same for Nico Ocarr, Party Jawa, Dr. Oggurob Trainer Holo and so on ...

The simple answer is just have an incentive that if you subscribe for 6 months or more. Mind you i would also make it so that is a subscriber only item, so becomes a dormant entity if you unsub immediately after getting it.

I've been subscribed since day 1 of coming back to the game, never played this game ever unsubbed/F2P and never want to either. I am glad that they look after the subscribers and the HK55 missions were an easy acquirement for someone who just subs each and every month like myself.

You talk as if BW making ANY subscriber rewards available again is a foregone conclusion--that you have already decided that BW WILL make these things available again, as if YOU have the power to decide.


This IS BW's decision, NOT yours.

So far, BW has decided NOT to make ANY subscriber rewards available again, by any means. They have not sold ANY subscriber reward directly on the CM, nor have they put ANY subscriber reward in packs.

I would NOT expect BW to change this stance, but then I am NOT part of the "entitled, have to have it even though I KNOW I did NOT meet the requirements to have that SUBSCRIBER REWARD" crowd.

No.

The simple answer is to hold true to the terms and conditions--to just leave it exactly as it is, a SUBSCRIBER REWARD for those that MET the CLEARLY AND EXPLICITLY stated criteria contained within the terms and conditions.

Anyone NOT subscribed from January 11- August 1, 2016 does NOT qualify to have access to the BONUS chapter and does NOT receive it and will simply have to learn to live without said access.

It's hilarious how defensive 'certain' (unsurprisingly familiar names) people get over the idea of folks wanting to actually pay BW more money on top of other charges for content at all. "Mine! I was there when it was released, so screw you all!". Childish to say the least but it's also a reason people tend to avoid the forums. I see no problem with people paying for a bonus chapter. Just because BW hasn't done it before doesn't mean they can't step outside the box for once.

You sure don't see people rocking their Yellow-black founder crystals, dancing with their Party Jawas either. It's just senseless pettiness.

It's hilarious how bent out of shape the "entitled, have to have it even though I KNOW I did NOT meet the requirements to have that SUBSCRIBER REWARD" crowd, and those that wish to enable that crowd, get over the idea that some people actually expect BW to hold true to the terms and conditions and the CLEARLY AND EXPLICITLY stated criteria to have access to those subscriber rewards contained within those terms and conditions.

"Just because BW has NEVER made ANY subscriber reward available again, by any means, doesn't mean they can't step outside the box if we pester, whine, cry, beg, plead and clamor loud and long enough or throw a big enough temper tantrum."

You are completely missing the point. Completely.

HK-51 is only available to subscribers. Literally. To get him as a non-subscriber (f2p or preferred) you have to pay to gain access to Section X to do the story / quest chain. That's the only way to get him as a non-subscriber. Pay.

That's one precedent of gaining access to subscriber only content.

Second one. Treek. To gain access to Treek as a non-subscriber you have to either buy a lot of escrow unlocks to go over the 350k limit for preferred players to then pay the 1m credits (iirc) to be able to get the mission to gain Treek. The alternative is to again pay to get the unlock directly off the Cartel Market. That is the only way to get him as a non-subscriber. Pay.

That's the second precedent covered.

So in essence, both Treek and HK-51 (plus the missions involved) are subscriber perks. You have to either be a subscriber to receive those for "free", or you have to pay.

Now, which part of paying to unlock additional content do you not understand from the above? That is essentially what I am suggesting BioWare do in respect to HK-55 and any related missions. Also bear in mind that someone has to PAY to be able to even get them, as they have to have been running KotFE as well, which, again, involves paying.

Not hard to understand those points is it? I guess I'll know if you come back with some witty remark or yet more excuses as to why BioWare should content lock these behind paying. Which is essentially what I'm also suggesting, paying. If you don't like that suggestion, I suggest you come back with a better reason than you have, because from my own viewpoint all I've seen is "but it's subscribers only stuff". Touch elitist.

EDIT: Oh, and before you come back with "you only suggest it because you want it". I don't. I hate HK-55, it's why I unsubscribed during KotFE - I didn't want all the HK-55 rubbish rewards (including the bonus chapter!). I still don't see why others who would like it, shouldn't be able to pay to gain access to it, at a reasonable price in line with the precedent set by BioWare already.

Then HK-51 is NOT only available to subscribers, is he? That would mean that he is NOT a subscriber reward.

That would mean that Treek is NOT only available to subscribers. That would mean that Treek is NOT a subscriber perk, either.

Treek is NOT free, even to subscribers. She must be purchased, either with credits or CC's. She could not even be considered a "subscriber perk". Hk-51 requires that a player complete a quest chain and therefore is NOT a subscriber perk either, although you could say that section X authorization is a subscriber perk. A subscriber perk is NOT the same as a subscriber reward, though.

What precedent set by BW?

Has BW EVER made ANY subscriber REWARD--not subscriber "perk", but subscriber REWARD-- available again?

No. BW has NEVER made ANY subscriber REWARD available again, by any means or at any price, no matter how loudly or how long the "entitled, have to have it even though I KNOW I did NOT meet the requirements to have that SUBSCRIBER REWARD" crowd, and those that wish to enable that crowd, pestered, whined, cried, clamored, begged and pleaded.

Neither of your two examples were even remotely close to being a subscriber REWARD.

Thats sad that EA calls it exclusive while bioware only calls it a bonus but, still, I think its obvious at this point in this thread which side is being polite and logical, lets hope the devs appreciate that.