Let's talk about how to improve Harb Pub pvp

I've said as much myself

I think this is the biggest BS I've read here. I mean ... You say everyone in Pub PvP is bad and THEN you aren't able to carry pub PvE players, because you assumed they were AS bad in PvE as well ?

I won't lie. I did make that assumption. I was turned off by the fact I was asked to lead right after stating I was not too familiar with pub Flashpoints. Quite honestly, I think that was a normal reaction on my part.

Granted most people will be rude when you offer advice even nicely.

Offer kind and sound advice, even in a whisper as to not embarrass them. Then in return rudely "I know..." Like if you knew then why were you doing it the wrong way?

Wow I am super tired...hope anything I said makes sense.

Firstly, Reps need to stop trying to play like imps. Reps can't death match, so they shouldn't try. Reps are strongest when they play objectives and use their brains, instead of trying to group gang bang people.
If you can't 1v2 or 1v1 successfully, then trying to 4v1 and losing or being delayed, means you are only wasting team resources.
Let's face it, the imps have a bigger population, so they will more than likely have more players who can death match. The imps know this, so they goad you into playing their way and then they just roll you. Don't let them, Don't fall for it
The way to win is to out think them. Brains vs Brawn. Most imps are so used to death matching, that they've forgotten the art of intelligent objective play.

So the basics are -
Play to win, not get the highest numbers
Play smart,
don't leave nodes unguarded, play at the nodes, let them come to you
call incs, this is very important, try to do it before they get to you or before you're nearly dead, calling numbers helps too so that your whole team doesn't come to stop 1,
use tactics, if they have 2 nodes, let one good person try and pull their team, when they do, don't follow that person and let them hopefully pull enough that you can get the other node
don't chase them, especially in void star
fight insight of the nodes and not on the sides or at the back of buildings,
don't be sheep and leap to your death from the respawn when there is another exit
dont run from nodes when guarding just so you don't die, stay and fight so that you delay them,
don't be selfish and decide you need to 3 cap while you could help defend (stealths )
learn to LOS, if you don't know how or what it means, ask someone. Learn where the LoS positions are for each map.
learn what the objective is for each map (watching some YouTube vids can help with that)
focus targets, healers etc.
use the map,
use situational awareness, if there are 4 of you against 1, where are the rest of them? It doesn't take 4 to kill 1 (or it shouldn't), some need to disengage and head to the other node because that 1 enemy is a decoy to allow them to cap your other node. Basically, learn to count,
communicate, call clear, give some direction (if you know more than the basics), listen as well
dont get set in playing only one way, ie, if you are losing hard in Hypergates, getting orbs will not help, forget the orbs and get the other pylon, that means get out of mid unless you are holding them up so your team can cap it. When they do, leave mid to defend it. Repeat, forget the orbs at this point.

They are the basics of objective play. Once you've learned them, look around and see if you can pick up more advanced tactics or develop some of you're own. Don't always think you know every tactic just because you know the main one. The other side know that basic tactic and how to counter it, so it's often negated before you try.

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Yep, that's important. Being polite is the best way to get people to listen. Don't embarrass people either. I usually pm individuals if they are having issues. But if more than one I use ops chat. Just don't get into rage arguments.

So the basics are -
Play to win, not get the highest numbers.

Imp trolls might argue that "winning is not important, it's the damage numbers which are important", or even something like "winning is unimportant, it's the kills which are important", because that's what Arena teaches them.

Gang killing is imho a direct result from Arena.