Let's talk about how to improve Harb Pub pvp

In a related note about pvp and a unrelated note in pve. I dislike pub players on harbinger. In pvp, they are all useless...even the ones who pvp alot. In PVE, for the first time ever, I was asked to carry the team in flashpoint after stating I was an imp main and do not really know pub flashpoints.( I said nothing, just left the group). If you want to enjoy pvp and the group content in general, roll imp. Or be prepared to play teacher.

Let me get this straight, you were asked to carry on "pub flashpoints"? What, the esselles was hard? Or was it maelstrom prizon? Either way, you kust be special. I've run most flashpoints more than the 25 times the achieves require and still was never asked to carry.

It's your authoritative aura, probably.

In a related note about pvp and a unrelated note in pve. I dislike pub players on harbinger. In pvp, they are all useless...even the ones who pvp alot. In PVE, for the first time ever, I was asked to carry the team in flashpoint after stating I was an imp main and do not really know pub flashpoints.( I said nothing, just left the group).

also the wins are not 50%. it is way way waaaaaaay lower than that.

Not my experience. I had some time to play tonight, so I queued up on Leaps'n'bounds. Defense guardian, full tank gear, no skank tanking going on. I solo queued the whole time, never left a game, took the obvious loss streak you'll see below in stride and just kept on queuing. And just as I saw before, the streaks even out. After 25 games, here's what I had:

voidstar: win
huttball: loss
acw : loss
huttball: loss
arena : loss
NC : LOSS
opg :loss
huttball quesh: - loss
arena : loss
arena : loss
arena : loss
voidstar : loss
ahg : win
huttball: win
huttball : win
ACW : win
opg : WIN
arena : loss
ahg : loss
nc : win
nc : win
vs :win
acw :win
acw : win
ahg: win

I count 12 wins and 13 losses. So 48% win rate. That's hardly "way lower" than 50%. Close games, crushing defeats and easy wins were all mixed in there.

Your experience might be different. But I just don't see the problem here.

I always considering logging into my pub to be a loss already.

Yup, it's easy to derail and find ourselves arguing about things that people are determined about. People have chosen their sides on a lot of debates so arguments won't help even if the truth slapped them in the face. =)

On topic, the only realistic way and I posted this in the other thread about pub pvp is to form premades, teams, make friends only play when they are on or try to spend more time picking out good players in a sea of potential bad players who may just pvp on the side for whatever various reasons. People pay to play the game, it's not a law to be max skilled either. Some people are older, slower, have conditions, bad computers, and may be new to the game. They all have to learn and it does help to explain rules or some simple pointers to new players. A reason why a noob in a warzone doesn't say "What do I do?" is because people will lock them down and make them feel like garbage. They would rather stay silent and hope they can blend in with the rest of the team and figure it out on their own.

Granted there will always be bads. People who que for xp, comms, or credits and go afk or do little while they watch youtube or text on phone so they can essentially kill two birds with one stone. (Dunno why but it happens I even see gold farmers afk in corners in my warzones now and then, in lowbies and mids usually).

There is a difference between someone trying and someone not trying. A person who may not be top notch, all the way geared may be guarding and lose the node, but they did call for help, but they lacked the skill to stop the attacker. There are three things that can go wrong with this. 1. No one even bothered to help them. 2. They are insulted for their attempted at trying to win 3. Most times than not they are left guarding again because no one replaces them. The team knows they aren't follow capable of guarding solo but they let it happen anyways, this is no longer their fault alone but the fault of the team. Insults will make them do poorly or give up on pvp in general and maybe a few months later they would have gotten to be pretty good but now we have one less body in ques and a longer wait.

Short of just afk on node to get guard medals they are already showing the initiative that they want to win by protecting what is theirs and the teams. Plenty of times a hypergate node will be lost and smack talk will follow but no one in mid attempted to bring back orbs either. If they had they may have already been there when the node was attempted to be taken. A steady stream of orb carriers alone can place people in close proximity of the node when things start to turn south.

Help someone who is willing to learn and adapt, that is always one of the most fulfilling things in this game as another gamer to see someone take your advice and learn from it. I have witnessed bad players grow into average to actually being one of the better people in warzones just after a month based off a few tips. Their willingness to learn and adapt goes a long way. Being a d-bag about it, and yelling at them makes most people clamp down or ignore anything you said. Literally they will just ignore you. Awesome when a teammate can't even hear its other teammates right? =)

As a pub I will almost always bring one friend with me and attempt to find more as I que. I is brutal but forming premades is about the best way to contend against superior imp numbers and multiple imp premades.