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Cicerokid
08.23.2016 , 11:36 PM | #141
The "logical fail" here is on your part.
Bioware's own representative offered proof contrary to yours. "This season in Ranked has had the highest number of hackers in it so far. Since the post last month asking for reports on these hackers, many people have reported these hackers and many of them have been punished." Musco and Bioware have the proof, and I choose to believe them. Since you dispute their claim, where is your proof? Provide us the evidence that says Bioware and Musco are lying. Please do! I beg of you! Please don't take offense if I don't hold my breath, because I REALLY doubt that proof is coming, jack.
And I feel you know that proof isn't there, which is why you tried to liken me over 2 posts to a creationist at a Trump rally, which is your way of trying to insult, I suspect. Have at it! You cried for proof, you got the best proof any of us can offer, and you ignore, minimize and insult. I might remind you of Matthew 7:1-5, which are words by which we should all seek to live:
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

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Jherad
08.23.2016 , 11:50 PM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Cicerokid View Post
Provide us the evidence that says Bioware and Musco are lying.
Why would anyone need to do that? I'm sure they're being absolutely truthful. Double or triple a tiny number is still a tiny number.

EDIT: On the hacking thing - Musco was asked a question. I just watched the interview - At NO point did he say that hacking was the worst it had ever been. He literally said that multiple accounts were banned at the start of season 7, and they've been monitoring the SAME people to see if they come back. He DID however say that a LOT of people falsely report 'cheaters' who weren't actually cheating.

LULZ.
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Cicerokid
08.23.2016 , 11:59 PM | #143
And to Zach,
If the hacking is as "utterly rare" as you make it to be, Mr Musco would never have commented. He and Bioware do have all the raw data to this game, they are the all seeing eyes in the sky. Bill Parcells always said "the eye in the sky never lies." Bioware has all the data on this game, they can give us a frequency. They aren't commenting on a problem so "utterly rare" as you are suggesting it is. But I guess until the day they actually post a frequency and more info, none of us will ever know with certainty. I strongly believe you are minimizing it, because I don't think they are commenting to the community if the incidents were as "utterly rare" as you suggest. And human nature says that too. People cheat their taxes, their employers, their spouses, the stock market all the time. Why should we think people wouldn't cheat a free to play video game, especially when official and unofficial voices in and around the game suggest cheating is occurring more frequently?

But more productive is to hope and pray they stop it going forward and they keep it as enjoyable as it has been since day 1. Because for whatever flaws it may have, it still is a great game and I for one am thankful it is around still has people who care to comment, so thanks all!

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TrixxieTriss
08.24.2016 , 01:27 AM | #144
Guys, I think this thread has gotten out of control. It's now a he said, she said thread. It doesn't even matter what the topic is at the moment. You are all just behaving like children having a play ground fight to see who can get their point across by bullying each other with insults.

No community or society can ever come to 100% agreement. Let's just say that a large percentage of us see and believe that hacks (common term, but not always accurate, we should just say cheating) are happening. While others whole heartedly believe they aren't. Those that believe they aren't, won't ever accept that it is happening unless Bio come out and publicly ban people. Those of us who believe it is, will always have the battle of proving it. We can't post proof here, so those that argue that it isnt happening will always have the higher ground in this discussion. It is much easier to say it's not happening because you don't need to provide proof for that. I know some of you have recorded matches where it isnt happening to try and support your position. But it's extremely easy for you to only post recordings of it not happening.

Regardless of peoples position on this topic, I think this threads life cycle has come to an end. Just let it die. It's become to toxic to live on.

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VixenRawR
08.24.2016 , 02:50 AM | #145
Thread is dead.
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Jherad
08.24.2016 , 06:07 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
It's now a he said, she said thread. It doesn't even matter what the topic is at the moment. You are all just behaving like children having a play ground fight to see who can get their point across by bullying each other with insults.
You've just described the thread since page 1. Without a shred of evidence, that's all there has ever been. I'm perfectly willing to consign this thread to the forum graveyard - which is where it has belonged all along.
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foxmob
08.24.2016 , 04:53 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Cicerokid View Post
The "logical fail" here is on your part.
Bioware's own representative offered proof contrary to yours. "This season in Ranked has had the highest number of hackers in it so far. Since the post last month asking for reports on these hackers, many people have reported these hackers and many of them have been punished." Musco and Bioware have the proof, and I choose to believe them. Since you dispute their claim, where is your proof? Provide us the evidence that says Bioware and Musco are lying. Please do! I beg of you! Please don't take offense if I don't hold my breath, because I REALLY doubt that proof is coming, jack.
no. it was simply that Trump engages in conspiracy theories and says "trust me" all the time, and then waves of white supremacists, neo-fascists and xenophobes roar in agreement.

first of all, musco didn't provide any proof either. however, it's very clear that a handful of ppl made it their mission to destroy solo ranked on a couple different servers (same person identified with video evidence on an EU server and harbinger). same person again on different toon after one was "banned." same person again after coming back from ban. are you sensing a pattern here? it's a handful (double that if you like) of players, and they seem focused on destroying one particular format: solo ranked.

as for the creationist mumbo-jumbo. it's faith-based and cannot be proved. documenting ppl cheating and the frequency of it's occurrence can be. it's possible to gather empirical evidence for "rampant hacking." so do it. or please - shut - up.
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RACATW
08.24.2016 , 05:23 PM | #148
Saw this guy using that cheat to lag himself during a REG (not ranked) arena today to save his premade from getting successfully 3v1'd by me at the end.

I still can't believe someone would cheat like that so blatantly. As if everyone else can't do it either if they wanted to, but do they? No. What a guy.

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08.24.2016 , 05:58 PM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by racatw View Post
saw this guy using that cheat to lag himself during a reg (not ranked) arena today to save his premade from getting successfully 3v1'd by me at the end.

I still can't believe someone would cheat like that so blatantly. As if everyone else can't do it either if they wanted to, but do they? No. What a guy.
i know bro i was in a civil war and i was the only 1 on my team and the other team had 8 ppl and they all hacked to prevent me from 3 capping them they are so sad because they cannot accept i am better so they have to resort to cheats and hax thats ok because i held my head high and mom was still proud of me for being a real man
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RACATW
08.26.2016 , 01:13 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by -Bob- View Post
i know bro i was in a civil war and i was the only 1 on my team and the other team had 8 ppl and they all hacked to prevent me from 3 capping them they are so sad because they cannot accept i am better so they have to resort to cheats and hax thats ok because i held my head high and mom was still proud of me for being a real man
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