we need more player levels

It couldn't hurt.

Though, when my parents were breeding Quarter Horses back in the late 70s, we were taught to ride on the horse, not in the horse. What type of saddle do you use for that?

Luke warm.

Wait, wrong joke for that punchline, sorry.

No we do not "need" them. We'll get them but we don't need them.

I am an old timer so I have sort of been through it all. Maybe I am just in a different place than others, but although I feel certain we will get 5 more levels with KOTET, I'd rather they dumped this old MMO standard. Especially with the advent of level sync it has become even more antiquated.

But it will most likely come with KOTET and is the major reason I stopped making new characters a while back. It enters the realm of tedium for me to chase after the ever moving goal post of level cap increases. I already have more characters than I care to grind through the sort manufactured pseudo content of level grind.

But we'll most likely get 5 more levels, have utility points taken away so that we get them again at 70, and be treated to a new acerbic round of tirades from players screaming about any newly perceived imbalances that will come with whatever new skill each AC gets at 70.

Or they give a new utility point rather than the obnoxious practice of taking one away. And said new utility point would only further foment the "OMG class is "x" OP nerf now!!!" that occurs daily anyway.

I hope I am wrong and they drop this notion. But I feel certain it will come.

I admire your restraint at using the term "obnoxious". I can think of much more vitriolic and accurate terms. The decision to make us "re-earn" skills we already knew has had the greatest negative impact on my enjoyment of SWTOR than any other development in the game. It's nothing I would quit over. But it did induce me to boycott SWTOR during what would have been my prime SWTOR-playing time of year. It is the only time, in more than a decade of MMOs, that I ever felt the phrase "slap in the face" justified.

I'm fine when games add stuff. Make me earn the added stuff. That's the way of things. Just don't tell me that reacquiring the stuff you just took from me is "new" stuff. If they can't be bothered to add new Utility Points (and maybe some new skills), then just leave it alone.

You mean all this time I been doing it wrong...? Custom fitted saddles over years of training and mastery only known by a certain village in the mountains of the Middle East.

They side we were getting a new event about DvL and instead we got reply 5yrs worth of the game again. So what is stopping them from doing it with new expansion?

Yes, they can make DvD and LvL events too.

This is what really turned me off to the whole idea. Not only utility points, but they moved passives and abilities in the skill trees/disciplines up as well. There is something about that I just find revolting and cheap. And I expect we will have them revisit this upon us.

Not too much really irks me in games, I've been at this for as long as gaming has been around and I know my own wants and desires will rarely or never be fully realized by developers. But this really got under my skin, and I expect it will happen again.

This, so much of this.

There is absolutely zero point in new levels, unless of course they decide to add a load of new abilities to each class, in which case I guess it makes some sense to add levels. Mind you, with level sync, is there any point to having new abilities tied to new levels? They could just pull a class tree thing and just alter the abilities everyone already has at max level.

No... no... no... sorry ... but most of the player base will catch onto what their doing if they do that. What they really need to do is just call it DVL instead of LVD, and then we can go through another content filled repetitious cycle, this time using all 8 advanced classes.