Depths of Manaan is Bugged

Eric,

TL;DR: please please please make this fix (if it happens) retroactive. It's ludicrous to expect we should all just run Depths of Manaan HM over and over hoping for the achievement pop. This isn't Black Talon.

Just completed this HM fp for the first time in order to get the DvL achievement. I'm sure you know this is one of the most difficult HM fps and it's not easy to find a pug that can complete it without rage-quitting at Ortuno, and add the difficulty of pugging HM fps in the first place due to lack of tanks/heals. Pugged into it tonight for the first time, and two of the four of us had done it before and did not get credit for the achievement in their previous runs. They (I now must say stupidly (but not on their part)) held out hope maybe this time would be different. We'd all heard of the "must kill outside of fire" nonsense, though that DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK!! I've killed it solo in fire and outside of fire. I killed it in fire for the tactical flashpoint achievement for the DvL event and GOT THE ACHIEVEMENT, though many people have done the same and not gotten it.

This pug I'm in tonight, we're lucky enough to get through Ortuno after a few wipes. That's fine. I can sense we're already going to do well thanks to that. We get to the final boss and don't wipe but we miss the timer twice by about ten seconds. We finally kill him the third time! It's done! We surface after the conversation and sure enough...NO ACHIEVEMENT, NO DvL EVENT ACHIEVEMENT. BUT IT TRIGGERED FOR THE CONQUEST OBJECTIVE!!!! How is it possible for the game to register in one way but not in two others, and how is it possible for so many people to kill it in fire and get it, and not kill it in fire and get it, and kill it in fire and NOT get it, and kill it outside of fire and NOT get it???

Look, I forgive a lot in this game, and I play it almost every day and have since launch. I shouldn't have been excited for the DvL event but after hitting a couple achievements I got hooked and became determined to see it through. The three things I worried about the most were crafting, the ops, and HM fps. Everything else was/is very doable. I don't dread ops and HM fps because of their difficulty per se, I dread trying to find a group (number 1, and sometimes impossible on pub side) that will also be able to finish it and not rage quit at the first sign of adversity (number 2), AND NOW, there's the dread that I will waste another evening waiting for a pug to form, go through one of the hardest fps in the game THAT I JUST ALREADY COMPLETED and have it not trigger again.

It might be easier for others to get into groups; I could certainly be more proactive and instead of hoping for GF to pop, spam fleet chat instead to get a group; but what is the point, no matter what I do and what anyone else does, if the achievement won't trigger?

All I ask, and I think all anyone would want more than anything, is this flashpoint gets retroactively counted for those that have done it within the DvL parameters.

Hey folks,

I can confirm that there is an issue with Depths of Manaan granting credit for the Dark vs. Light Achievement. As some of you in the thread have guessed, the issue is caused by the environmental fire killing the boss instead of your character. If that happens, the Achievement will not properly track that you have completed the Flashpoint.

The way to get around this is to ensure that your character doing damage is what kills the final boss. As long as this happens you will get credit for the Achievement.

Thanks everyone. I will pass on any updates as I have them.

-eric

Thanks for letting us know, but some players are confused because four objectives are missing from the Legendary achievement, including the HM FP objective. So right now, you don't even need to complete Manaan HM to get the Legendary level. Would be great to get a clarification on whether this will be fixed before Chapter 16 launches.

The HM Flashpoint Achievement missing from the Legendary Achievement will be fixed with 4.7.

We are still working through the other three and are planning to address them likely in 4.7.1. We are working through how this will impact anyone who has completed tier 6 at that point. We don't want to cause a negative effect on anyone's progress with any changes that we make.

I will pass on updates as I have them!

-eric

The HM Flashpoint Achievement missing from the Legendary Achievement will be fixed with 4.7.

We are still working through the other three and are planning to address them likely in 4.7.1. We are working through how this will impact anyone who has completed tier 6 at that point. We don't want to cause a negative effect on anyone's progress with any changes that we make.

I will pass on updates as I have them!

-eric

Wait, so you're increasing the requirements for an achievement - especially one that requires so much effort - after the fact.

Why should we have assumed that the requirements for "Dark vs. Light: Legend" were more than what was listed? Why even list the requirements if it's not even supposed to be a complete list?

You could have at least posted something sooner before players were so far though it.

There was an entire blog post on the requirements: http://www.swtor.com/blog/legendary-level-guide
Also, it's safe to assume that any achievements listed under the Legendary category would be required.

Just because the final achievement was missing them is not a reason to not fix it. In fact, most players haven't even realized this bug. Also, that achievement only shows meaningless names like "Dreaded News", "Giantkiller" or "Ruthless Efficiency"; if you truly wanted to find out what you had to do, this would be the last place to look.

No where in that blog which starts: "Below you will find each objective required to complete the Legendary Tier of the Dark vs. Light event." does it say that you have to complete the Legendary Tier to qualify for the Legend achievement.

...I don't really see how you can make any fuss out of this....

...it is poor form...