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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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Screek
12.29.2011 , 03:15 AM | #281
i started playing as a healer since lvl 10, im now lvl 50 and still play as a healer, and i really enjoy it. Made a new personal record doing 443k healing in a WZ the other day, i rarely see anyone doing 443k dmg however i rarely look at the dmg.

Anyway im a healing commando, and i got no trouble with healing in WZ.

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nicnik
12.29.2011 , 03:25 AM | #282
Here's my thoughts.

Healing in general is very low, which I prefer. What I cannot stand is overhealing, which many many games possess.

The self healing is actually fine, the real issue here is some specs having insane burst dps from ranged. That's where the issues lie.

The insane burst some ranged classes posses should be given to the melee's, and the range class (at least the 2 non force classes) should be cut considerably.

1 healer by themselves, without being cc'd or interupted, should be able to at least draw even with a ranged dpser. at present it's easily 70/30 in a bounty/troopers favor. There is very little hope of outhealing 1 dpser, your only hope is having los/a tank to shield you.

Unless your team is utterly dominating the other team, half the heals end up as self healing.

So, my solution.

1. reduce range burst dps of some classes. (obvious which).

2. give pure healers more self protection. a 10s reduce dmg cast on 1min cd would suffice, like the one tanks get. i see no reason why a healer cannot have it, but also have it castable on others.

Either way, playing a healer is quite painful at present and very frustrating unless your team is dominating, in which case you'd enjoy any class or spec anyway.

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Mycrof
12.29.2011 , 04:00 AM | #283
Wow, there are a bunch of snotty replies in this thread. The problem I have with healing is:

1. The ui sucks. Half the time it doesn't accurately show people's hp and it is unusually hard to actually target people.

2. It is too easy to interrupt a healer. There are just too many stuns, knock downs, knock backs, pulls, and interrupts. By itself, this wouldn't be all that bad, except that most classes are extremely mobile and (more importantly) most classes have hard hitting instant attacks that ALSO do some form of cc. Realistically, you could run up to a healer and just smash your head on the keyboard and have a good chance of interrupting them. My cc immunity never kicks in before I'm dead. The only time I've seen it do anything is when a tank is being healed while using a cool down.

3. AE damage is insane! AE attacks hit as hard, or almost as hard, as the single target. It's nuts.

A final word: alot of you guys are being *****. Just based on what I've observed in bgs, there aren't many healers. I think some of you folks have zero idea what you're talking about when your first response to op is that he need to l2p. You want to distance yourself from wow? Than divorce yourselves from the elitist ******** attitude that was so common there and exhibit a modicum of maturity and respect.

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DonnieT
12.29.2011 , 04:05 AM | #284
The problem is the UI, it's more challenging then the players.
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Satans_Puppet
12.29.2011 , 04:08 AM | #285
I've started outhealing the DPS but still getting no MVP votes even though my strategy in Warzones is to pick a person, stick with them and heal them to buggery.... so I should at least get ONE MVP vote, those dying around my person will also get assistance and the rule goes out the window in hutt ball if my Republic team actually get the ball

I do find though that once you've been marked by the other team as a healer, you can be healing a person and they'll just ignore you when you're getting pummeled and stunned by the other team. At which point, it's time to move on to a new healing friend.

It's fun when you get one person having a go at you while the team around you are fighting off the others... you can heal yourself and wait for your team members to finish up before they start on the guy that just doesn't get that you ain't dying anytime soon

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Adornus
12.29.2011 , 11:15 AM | #286
I think it really comes down to not trying to do too much.

At least in wow, if you wanted to help capture a flag, or objective, you could do it as a healer (or at least help close by). In this game, 90% of the time you can absolutely not do this. It's better to find a spot flanked off to the side, in a route generally not traveled (Hutt Ball sides where the heal boosts are) and you can chain from there.

The problem is this is not engaging gameplay. You feel helpless and a lot of times just watch your team lose without being able to accomplish anything. It kind of sucks. Then, when you do need to get into position because you're losing range or getting LoS'd, you get trained pretty badly unless you have defensive CC ready (offensive CC is a waste as a healer in this game as it will screw you later on).

That brings me to my other point, the ranges desparately need to be adjusted. If you're going to give practically every class a sprint or gap closer, and a major knockback or aoe CC on a low CD, the ranges for those AoE CCs need to be decreased and healing ranges need to be increased. Bottom line. When I see 2 DPS attacking my teammate (who I'm healing), and one sees me and swtiches to me, before another cast can be completed he's within CC range. This is bad. At least in WoW, and other games, you can sit back at max range (40 yards) and outside of a gap closer. This can't happen in this game if you want to be in range of someone to heal.

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Cyphen
12.29.2011 , 11:18 AM | #287
Only concern I have is the targeting system in this game, which is terrible.
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cwatz
12.29.2011 , 11:22 AM | #288
Healing is still strong. Teams with healers do better than teams without.

Quite frankly healing has been insanely overpowered in mmo's for a long time. Look at wow for example. That game is a giant healfest and quite frankly its not fun.

If I had it my way healing would be even weaker.

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PurveyorOfTruth
12.29.2011 , 11:22 AM | #289
Quote: Originally Posted by rawkus View Post
Honestly, it's not even fun.

I'm hardly bad or a beginner (2700 exp Resto Druid), but I can't even begin to describe how awful PvP healing is in this game. I won't even get into the raid frames and totally unresponsive targeting system. Right now my Operative is 44 so I have all my abilities and it's still crap. Every single random DPS baddie can easily knock off 30-50% of my health in a global so it's impossible to keep up and then you just get interrupted/cc'ed to hell. Juking the interrupt? Good luck figuring that out!

It's not a positioning issue. It's not a l2p issue either.

It's just not fun being completely helpless without serious peels and even then healing is totally underwhelming.
Wait so if I'm getting this right, you are saying healing sucks in TOR because it is not like WoWs healing?

What unresponsive targeting system? yeah no wonder you won't get into that, because you pulled that statement out of your schving schving.

Raid frames aren't perfect and the UI could use some restructuring as a whole, but it doesn't break the game for healers.

You are QQing that your healer can not take damage like a tank can. Sit down think about that, and let it sink in. Next time you PvP stay like 10-20 meters away from all the main action.

YOU ARE A HEALER FFS, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FIGHTING (OR IN A POSITION TO TAKE DAMAGE) IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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CHRISGG
12.29.2011 , 11:23 AM | #290
Quote: Originally Posted by PurveyorOfTruth View Post
What unresponsive targeting system? yeah no wonder you won't get into that, because you pulled that statement out of your schving schving.
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