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ninjaworrior
06.05.2016 , 08:40 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by PorsaLindahl View Post
Subs are $14.99 USD (United States Dollars) per month. It's the conversion rates of your Country, Territory, etc., plus any taxes / fees that make it different. You ARE NOT PAYING $50 USD for the game, you're paying $14.99 USD.

You keep spouting that you're paying $50. Well, as I stated before: You may be paying $50 in your local currency, but that $50 in your currency is $18.52 USD, and I'm willing to wager that the $3.53 USD difference is taxes / fees levied by your Country or Territory.

It doesn't matter what type of domicile someone lives in. You could live in a penthouse on Park Avenue, in New York or live on a farm in Bugtussle, Kentucky. The subscription price is the same.

What you need is to educate yourself in basic math and economics.
and you need to go back to school ^.^ it Rarely matters the Type of Currency, Ill give you and Example Lets say Id make 1000$ in my currency a Fortnight, and you'd make that same 1000$ but in USD dollars , so when you subtract all the costs Bills/Food Etc. lets say You'd Remain with 200$ for Spare to do w/e you want , Now you would renew your subcription for Star wars for Only 15$ leaving you with 185$ Left right ? Where as for me Id have to pay 50$ leaving me with 150$ left , Thats the Point you were to BLINDED to see so before you Try to Insult someone you should Seriously Think... Think bigger not Smaller, im sure your Educated right, Lets see you use your math to turn that Around. In my Example youd have More money that i have left on the SAME Fortnightly Salary of 1000$

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Ratajack
06.05.2016 , 09:38 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjaworrior View Post
and you need to go back to school ^.^ it Rarely matters the Type of Currency, Ill give you and Example Lets say Id make 1000$ in my currency a Fortnight, and you'd make that same 1000$ but in USD dollars , so when you subtract all the costs Bills/Food Etc. lets say You'd Remain with 200$ for Spare to do w/e you want , Now you would renew your subcription for Star wars for Only 15$ leaving you with 185$ Left right ? Where as for me Id have to pay 50$ leaving me with 150$ left , Thats the Point you were to BLINDED to see so before you Try to Insult someone you should Seriously Think... Think bigger not Smaller, im sure your Educated right, Lets see you use your math to turn that Around. In my Example youd have More money that i have left on the SAME Fortnightly Salary of 1000$
The cost is still $15 USD. The subscription cost is still the same $15/month USD, no matter what the local currency is.

If Johnny and Billy both live in the US and Johnny makes $500 USD a week and Billy makes $250 USD a week, should Billy have a lower subscription cost than Johnny because he makes less than Johnny? Should Billy be able to freeload, mooch and sponge off Johnny's financial contribution and have unlimited access to the parts of the game he wants to play for FREE simply because he makes less than $500 USD per week ($1000 USD per fortnight). I don't think so.

There is no difference between Billy who makes less than Johnny in USD and Harry who lives in another country and makes less than Johnny when his local currency is converted into USD. Both Billy and Harry should have to pay the same equivalent of $15 USD to subscribe if they want the bells and whistles this game has to offer.

If either Billy and/or Harry want to play the game for FREE, then they should be willing to accept that they get what they pay for and they will not have access to all the bells and whistles.

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PorsaLindahl
06.05.2016 , 10:02 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjaworrior View Post
and thats why your small Minded, I didn't Acuse you, i didn't Say your name, Thats some Guilt you got there, i didnt come here to ask for conversation rates i made an OPEN suggestion its not a crime,
Hmm. Let's take a look at the highlighted portion below:

Quote: Originally Posted by ninjaworrior View Post
Thats because you and Rat are only Seeing from one perspective and not the other, no one is Freeloading, and im sure if bioware were even to make those Changes you guys would Moosh the hell Out of it, I pay for sub when i can,
i've seen some of my Friends who wish they could have a Bigger Credit cap to buy those Fancy Outfits they like, Alot of them wish that Warzones Would be Free for Free to players, even if There was NO CREDIT(Warzone comes, Valor, Credits ) earned from the warzones, the way most of you see it, is as if im " Demanding" them to make everything Free so you say im trying to "free load " or " Moosh ", ( and its funny the same people who call you freeloader are the same people who ABUSE Bugs/GLitches, thats why when bioware found out players were abusing a Decor Bug they would buy it for like nothing from an NPC and resell it back to that npc for a more credits that it was bought for and make Millions off it, doing more harm that good to the game,in there own Selfishness,and then talk about me not caring about Bioware and the Credit they deserve for there Effort on this game and me Demanding Free Content for EVERYONE and the same people who act like they never Freeloaded in there life in anything) I totally understand when you guys say why should Free to play players get to Enjoy some part of the game for free when you have to pay, no one is forcing you to pay for the Game. so why should you care so much if Free to play players Ask for a Little Free part of the game ? Honestly if i were you and i saw this Post id just Ignore it Because, from your perspective you couldn't give a Damn about anyone other than yourself, when i created this suggestion it was out of Good and Not ONLY FOR MYSELF, but for EVERYONE ELSE who LOVES this game.

Honestly when it becomes Possible for me to Sub every month i will even if warzones and Operations were to become Free, Who doesn't Love those Subscription Benefits Getting more Rewards from Missions ETC.
over on age of wushu i had almost no reason to pay for subscription But I still Subbed because it was Great way to make Tons of Ingame Currency so that i could buy those " outfits, Mounts " I loved, and we got More rewards from Quests/etc. ( PVP and Dungeons were all FREE but people still subbed and raped the " Cartel market " in the game)

"Don't Judge others simply because they Sin differently than You do"
People who abuse bugs and glitches are what? Exploiters. So you insinuated in your post that Ratajack and I were exploiters just because he called you a freeloader and a mooch, and I agreed with him.

Quote: Originally Posted by ninjaworrior View Post
and you need to go back to school ^.^ it Rarely matters the Type of Currency, Ill give you and Example Lets say Id make 1000$ in my currency a Fortnight, and you'd make that same 1000$ but in USD dollars , so when you subtract all the costs Bills/Food Etc. lets say You'd Remain with 200$ for Spare to do w/e you want , Now you would renew your subcription for Star wars for Only 15$ leaving you with 185$ Left right ? Where as for me Id have to pay 50$ leaving me with 150$ left , Thats the Point you were to BLINDED to see so before you Try to Insult someone you should Seriously Think... Think bigger not Smaller, im sure your Educated right, Lets see you use your math to turn that Around. In my Example youd have More money that i have left on the SAME Fortnightly Salary of 1000$
Rat's already busted your insane logic, but I will spell it out yet again.

$15 USD is $15 USD is $15 USD.

It doesn't matter if it's $50 in your currency. It doesn't matter if it's $200 in your currency. It doesn't matter if it's $1000 in your currency. IT'S STILL $15 USD FOR A SUB!

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NakodaTheJedi
06.05.2016 , 11:33 PM | #64
to be honest if i were swtor i wouldnt let f2p do fps either because of ppl like u
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NakodaTheJedi
06.05.2016 , 11:35 PM | #65
hey kid the dollar sign goes before the numbers not after so its $1000 not 1000$
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ninjaworrior
06.06.2016 , 06:38 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by NakodaTheJedi View Post
hey kid the dollar sign goes before the numbers not after so its $1000 not 1000$
Immature much ?

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ninjaworrior
06.06.2016 , 06:39 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The cost is still $15 USD. The subscription cost is still the same $15/month USD, no matter what the local currency is.

If Johnny and Billy both live in the US and Johnny makes $500 USD a week and Billy makes $250 USD a week, should Billy have a lower subscription cost than Johnny because he makes less than Johnny? Should Billy be able to freeload, mooch and sponge off Johnny's financial contribution and have unlimited access to the parts of the game he wants to play for FREE simply because he makes less than $500 USD per week ($1000 USD per fortnight). I don't think so.

There is no difference between Billy who makes less than Johnny in USD and Harry who lives in another country and makes less than Johnny when his local currency is converted into USD. Both Billy and Harry should have to pay the same equivalent of $15 USD to subscribe if they want the bells and whistles this game has to offer.

If either Billy and/or Harry want to play the game for FREE, then they should be willing to accept that they get what they pay for and they will not have access to all the bells and whistles.
Sad to see you still couldnt understand a basic example i layed out for you.
and i will repeat what i already posted incase you missed that cause all you guys look for is the Negative and not the good,

"Honestly when it becomes Possible for me to Sub every month i will even if warzones and Operations were to become Free, Who doesn't Love those Subscription Benefits Getting more Rewards from Missions ETC.
over on age of wushu i had almost no reason to pay for subscription But I still Subbed because it was Great way to make Tons of Ingame Currency so that i could buy those " outfits, Mounts " I loved, and we got More rewards from Quests/etc. ( PVP and Dungeons were all FREE but people still subbed and raped the " Cartel market " in the game)"

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PorsaLindahl
06.06.2016 , 07:40 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjaworrior View Post
Sad to see you still couldnt understand a basic example i layed out for you.
and i will repeat what i already posted incase you missed that cause all you guys look for is the Negative and not the good,

"Honestly when it becomes Possible for me to Sub every month i will even if warzones and Operations were to become Free, Who doesn't Love those Subscription Benefits Getting more Rewards from Missions ETC.
over on age of wushu i had almost no reason to pay for subscription But I still Subbed because it was Great way to make Tons of Ingame Currency so that i could buy those " outfits, Mounts " I loved, and we got More rewards from Quests/etc. ( PVP and Dungeons were all FREE but people still subbed and raped the " Cartel market " in the game)"
What's sad is that you can't grasp the simple fact that you are not paying any more for a sub than anyone else. You want warzones and operations? Pay for them like everyone else.

You're acting like a kid standing on the outside of a candy store. There's free samples outside, but the good stuff is all inside and costs money. You want to go inside and get the good candy, but you're not willing to pay for it.

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Damask_Rose
06.06.2016 , 07:49 AM | #69
There are a few points I'd like to make.

1. There are numerous posts asking for f2p to get more for free, yet they all ask for different things and say that what they aren't interested in should remain restricted. If Bioware implemented all of those suggestions the entire game would be free with no restrictions what so ever. The games I have seen with unrestricted free access have a buy in price of around $50 (which I believe would be about $200 in your local currency) and have p2w shops.

2. When they decided not to give unlimited war zones to f2p they said it was because only a small fraction of f2p ever used all 5 of their free ones. They didn't forget about it, they decided it wasn't worth doing.

3. You don't need to sub every month to get the lions share of what you want. Since you have sub'd this month, you have unlocked all expansions up to this point and the ability to level to 65. They don't take that away from you when you drop back down to preferred. So, for the price of one month sub, you can get your max level characters and now pvp in the 65 bracket and can que with your sub'd friends or guildmates all you want. You can use this time to buy pvp passes for when you aren't sub'd. When you aren't sub'd you can see if a friend will trade passes for deco's bought with pvp coms which they can then sell for a fair bit.

4. Studies done on f2p games show that only a small percent of players ever pay a single cent on the game they play. All income from f2p games comes from less than 10% of players.
My name is Milind. I checked it again and can confirm you there is no bug with any companion in the game.

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Thoronmir
06.06.2016 , 07:59 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Damask_Rose View Post
There are a few points I'd like to make.

1. There are numerous posts asking for f2p to get more for free, yet they all ask for different things and say that what they aren't interested in should remain restricted. If Bioware implemented all of those suggestions the entire game would be free with no restrictions what so ever. The games I have seen with unrestricted free access have a buy in price of around 50$ (which I believe would be about $200 in your local currency) and have p2w shops.

2. When they decided not to give unlimited war zones to f2p they said it was because only a small fraction of f2p ever used all 5 of their free ones. They didn't forget about it, they decided it wasn't worth doing.

3. You don't need to sub every month to get the lions share of what you want. Since you have sub'd this month, you have unlocked all expansions up to this point and the ability to level to 65. They don't take that away from you when you drop back down to preferred. So, for the price of one month sub, you can get your max level characters and now pvp in the 65 bracket and can queuing with your sub'd friends or guildmates all you want. You can use this time to buy pvp passes for when you aren't sub'd. When you aren't sub'd you can see if a friend will trade passes for deco's bought with pvp coms which they can then sell for a fair bit.

4. Studies done on f2p games show that only a small percent of players ever pay a single cent on the game they play. All income from f2p games comes from less than 10% of players.
I was going to write something snarky and humorous titled "Fun with Numbers" to explain to the OP how exchange rates work. But I like your post better. All valid points that actually help the OP. Well done.
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